Friday, October 19th 2018

NVIDIA Rushes in GTX 1060 with GDDR5X to Counter AMD Radeon RX 590 Threat

AMD is giving final touches to its Radeon RX 590 graphics card, which is rumored to be based on an efficient new rendition of the "Polaris" silicon, which could disturb NVIDIA's product lineup between the GTX 1060 series and the GTX 1070, as its new RTX 2060 series is nowhere in sight. In a bid to thwart this threat, NVIDIA is preparing a variant of the GeForce GTX 1060 with faster GDDR5X memory.

The current GTX 1060 6 GB is endowed with 8 Gbps GDDR5 memory, which at its 192-bit bus width works out to a memory bandwidth of 192 GB/s. NVIDIA had attempted to improve its competitive position once, by creating a shortlived sub-variant of this SKU with 9 Gbps GDDR5 memory (211 GB/s). Switching to 10 Gbps GDDR5X memory would give the chip 240 GB/s memory bandwidth, and 11 Gbps (unlikely because expensive), would yield 264 GB/s. With the GP106 silicon maxed out, it's also possible the new GTX 1060 could be based on a heavily cut down GP104, possibly even with 192-bit memory, which explains GDDR5X memory.
Source: NVIDIA
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98 Comments on NVIDIA Rushes in GTX 1060 with GDDR5X to Counter AMD Radeon RX 590 Threat

#51
GoldenX
Yup, I forgot the 8800GS.
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#52
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
GoldenXYup, I forgot the 8800GS.
And the GTS250, GTS240 etc... That rebrand lived a long long time.
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#54
CyberBuddha
It somehow doesn't make any sense to counter against RX590 with older generation of card, does it?
Card won't be super fast anyway and potential customers might rather choose 1070 instead...
Well am I the only one who's missing the point of this step?
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#55
GoldenX
You could say that the 590 is around since 2013, GCN and all that.
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#56
CyberBuddha
GoldenXYou could say that the 590 is around since 2013, GCN and all that.
I mean why release something like that when 2050s and 2060s are about to be released shortly? On the AMD side they didn't announce release of new gpu line, did they?
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#57
GoldenX
As long as the 2050 is not a renamed 1060...
It sounds weird, yes, it could also be to deplete stock.
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#58
LiveOrDie
lol what version 1060 is this now why not just call it a 1060Ti at lest.
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#59
ppn
They would rather dump the old stock of GP104 as 1050Ti with 70% Cuda disabled than sell all the remaining chips as fully operating to their best as 1070Ti 7,5GB 299$ version which is 90% of them.
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#60
Markosz
This must be the saddest past few years of GPU market..
So many remakes, and not a single relevant new card.
AMD's Vega almost doesn't even exists, Nvidia's RTX 20 series not much better with huge price increase for current game tech.
And instead of making a decent, fresh mid-range card, they are all just rolling their ~3 years old tech.
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#61
Vya Domus
Pap1erI mean why release something like that when 2050s and 2060s are about to be released shortly?
Actually there is no proof that this is going to happen anytime soon.
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#62
lexluthermiester
The proof is in the pudding. Let's see some tech-specs to this new 1060.
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#63
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
Hrm... might be time to replace my gtx970...
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#64
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
hatTake a step or two further back: remember the 9600GSO? One variant had 96 shaders, the other had 48 I believe...
The 9600GSO only ever had 96 shaders. The 9600GSO 512MB, note the memory is part of the model name, had 48.
cdawallI agree I never disagreed that NV seemed to label products for the most part. I am sure something has slipped through the cracks over the decades of their existence, but we are talking a slip and not an open flood gate of IDGAF that AMD seems to have and this coming from someone who still has a stack as tall of him of their cards. :roll:
And that is my point. The have at least made the name distuquishable, so you know what you are buying when you buy it.

There are some close calls, the MX150 with different TDP for example. But, like I said, the lower TDP is to fit in the designs of the laptop, and the higher TDP version would just throttle to match the lower if it was put in those computers anyway. They are not innocent, for sure, and really I don't like what they did with the 1060s, the naming definitely could have been better.
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#65
lexluthermiester
Easy RhinoHrm... might be time to replace my gtx970...
That was needed long ago.1080 from Ebay would be a great purchase.
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#66
kings
Why bother? Just lower the price of the GTX 1070 all call it a day.
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#67
ppn
2060 in november. Must resist.
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#68
Captain_Tom
Isn't it illegal to put "endowed" and "192-bit" in the same sentence?

It would be like saying "The GT 1030 is endowed with DDR4."
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#69
hat
Enthusiast
192 bit isn't all that bad. It was a decent performer all the way back to the 9600GSO, which was a fantastic price/performance card. Since then, memory has only gotten faster, and nVidia's compression helps things along as well. If 192 bit vs 256 bit allows a cheaper card to be made that still performs, I think it's a good thing.
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#70
Captain_Tom
hat192 bit isn't all that bad. It was a decent performer all the way back to the 9600GSO, which was a fantastic price/performance card. Since then, memory has only gotten faster, and nVidia's compression helps things along as well. If 192 bit vs 256 bit allows a cheaper card to be made that still performs, I think it's a good thing.
"Cheaper" is the key word. Not "Quality" lol.
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#71
B-Real
So NV releases a second reiteration of the GTX 1060 against the second reiteration of the RX480.
ppn2060 in november. Must resist.
You will resist when you see its price. :)
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#72
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
They should name it as GTX 1060 Ti or 1065. A normal gamer is so lost with these.
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#74
Liquid Cool
cdawallYep. Can't imagine how many people purchased 560's with the lower core count with the only nomenclature change being a cryptic part number difference that may or may not mean it was actually a locked down card.
newtekie1Don't forget the RX 560. AMD released a different version with less shaders with no change in the name at all. The original RX 560 had 1024 shaders, then AMD released another version of the RX 560 with no name change at all, no way at all to distinguish between the versions that had 896 Shaders. No core count in the name, no added SE or whatever, just RX 560.


:shadedshu:,

Liquid Cool
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#75
Casecutter
Sad people dis'd AMD for at least a die shrink (well not exactly let's say new/improved process), while not doing anything with the memory, which is a big shortcoming. But Nvidia slaps on GDDR5X and look it's all good.

While is/was said the GDDR5X was slightly more efficient vs. throughput could we think Nvidia will raise GPU clocks or on this memory? Another question... so the Nvidia GP106 memory controller had always has been configured and set-up to permit GDDR5X, or is this chip being re-spun to allow this?

Lastly, Nvidia AIB's surly aren't liking this... As moving to GDDR5X means all new PCB layouts as it requires 190 pins per chip position, verses 170 pins for current GDDR5. So that's probably going to make such models more pricey, killing any bang-for-buck! Somehow this is not looking good.

Oh well, perhaps we aren't getting anything new and exciting until this time next year. But both sides are stringing-us-out 3-4 years now for any mainstream GPU offering just sucks!
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