Tuesday, December 4th 2018

Microsoft to Kill off Edge Browser, Replace with its Own Chromium-derivative?

It looks like Microsoft is on a tactical retreat in the web-browser wars, with no amount of marketing integrated with Windows 10 dissuading users from using Google's near-monopolistic Chrome web-browser. Windows Central has come out with a sensational report that suggests that Microsoft could kill off the Edge web-browser that ships with Windows 10. It could try a different strategy against Chrome - designing a new web-browser that's derived from Chromium, the open-source foundation that supplies Chrome with key components. Much like Firefox, Chromium is heavily forked and customized by the OSS community.

Microsoft is internally calling this Chromium-based browser "Anaheim." The browser will be designed for both the x86 and ARM versions of Windows 10, and could be heavily differentiated from Edge and Internet Explorer, which could include a new branding, or perhaps even a significantly different user-interface from Edge. Microsoft could begin non-public community testing of "Anaheim" throughout 2019.
Source: Windows Central
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92 Comments on Microsoft to Kill off Edge Browser, Replace with its Own Chromium-derivative?

#76
remixedcat
SlizzoIf I can get UBlock Origin, LastPass, and Honey on it, then I'm sold.
and stylus as well
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#77
StrayKAT
R-T-BI mean, they pretty much started out with a systemd style process manager in the kernel, so yeah, less dramatic because it's always been there.
The whole unix schtick was just "kernel + user space". There was a clear segregation. Systemd creates a third layer inbetween that takes many things that were once user space related, and says they're all part of system integrity now. If anything, it became even more like Windows because of this, and less like unix.
R-T-BI mean, I get what you are saying, not taking it literally. But seriously, what does "having balls" have to do with a good software product?
I didn't necessarily anything about good or bad software. Just competitiveness and crushing your enemies.
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#78
Octopuss
Vayra86Okay. Point me to the extensive configuring of Chrome then. Not through extensions though, because that is third party.

Edge is actually quite feature complete for a browser, much like Chrome. You're entitled to your opinion, but its not really valid. Its also incredibly fast and it has a smaller footprint than Chrome does.

Its funny you should say 'just like Firefox' because the two are not alike in the slightest, and here's the kicker, both Edge and FF do certain things much better than Chrome does. An example of this is related to web-based development work and working with SaaS applications through a browser. Chrome is OK, and FF and Edge are better, an example is how they handle XMLs. On the other hand, while Firefox seems to be in decline, Edge is moving up, both in quality and userbase.

For casual use, Chrome is great, foolproof, sandboxed and thus safe. For anything advanced, its one of the least interesting browsers.

Any comparison with IE, in any case, is so far off the mark its unreal.
I have no idea, I never used Chrome for more than five minutes.

I use Pale Moon. That's how configurable browser should look like.
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#79
Sasqui
StrayKATThey tried something original with Win 8, and people hated that too (including me).
Yea, in that case they tried to break into the smartphone market AND use the same OS design for the desktop. It had many original elements to it, but they were trying to do what Android had already done.

Really, they tried to boil the ocean. Hats off for trying though... fail - fast forward to Win 10 :p
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#80
StrayKAT
SasquiYea, in that case they tried to break into the smartphone market AND use the same OS design for the desktop. It had many original elements to it, but they were trying to do what Android had already done.

Really, they tried to boil the ocean. Hats off for trying though... fail - fast forward to Win 10 :p
I'm bummed out by it. Not because I particularly liked MS here (I barely even use a phone), but just that the mobile space got a lot less interesting overnight. Once MS was gone, everyone else was too (other Linux based ones like Ubuntu/Firefox, or Symbian or Palm and QNX/Blackberry). Same goes with all embedded or SmartTV/tablet/appliance spaces (since it's basically the same). I think QNX has made it on to some European cars, but it's going to go to waste away and die. Which is a damn shame. It's one of the only commercial microkernel OS'es around. This is not "progress", where actual forward thinking design gets shoved into some company's vault and scrounges around in smaller markets.
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#81
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
StrayKATThey tried something original with Win 8, and people hated that too (including me). Although I think the tile paradigm was great for phones.
Two thoughts: yes it was perfect for phones. The tiles is the single best feature of the windows phones. I’d like to see something like that model carry over to android or Apple.

As for the W8 OS itself, I love it! I have none of the issues that come with W10. It’s a perfectly operating and updating OS. With Start8 installed I don’t even have to deal with the tiles...it becomes a faster and more responsive W7. I find myself regularly gravitating to my backup system, which is where my W8.1 is.
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#82
StrayKAT
rtwjunkieTwo thoughts: yes it was perfect for phones. The tiles is the single best feature of the windows phones. I’d like to see something like that model carry over to android or Apple.

As for the W8 OS itself, I love it! I have none of the issues that come with W10. It’s a perfectly operating and updating OS. With Start8 installed I don’t even have to deal with the tiles...it becomes a faster and more responsive W7. I find myself regularly gravitating to my backup system, which is where my W8.1 is.
One correction though: I probably shouldn't say it's original. Didn't Star Trek already do this with LCARS? :D

But that's probably why it works. Roddenberry got it right once again.
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#83
Ravenas
Please no. Edge is a good browser.
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#84
TheGuruStud
R-T-BNeither browser (firefox or ie) is lacking in configuration options anymore.

Edge still flaunts web standards though.
Anyone remember the good ol days when websites were broken on other browsers, b/c they were written incorrectly, just so they could load on IE? Microsoft is a joke and will always be a joke. They couldn't code correctly with guns to their head.
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#85
R-T-B
TheGuruStudAnyone remember the good ol days when website were broken on other browsers, b/c they were written incorrectly just so they could load on IE? Microsoft is a joke and will always be a joke. They couldn't code correctly with guns to their head.
Oh gosh, don't remind me.
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#86
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
I only use chrome on android, rather use waterfox...
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#87
Arjai
I use Pale Moon on my Linux Crunchers. Which is not often, but, it runs smoother than FireFox, IMO. It is also a bit less memory hungry.

On my Daily Driver, this LappyTop (in my system specs) I have 8.1 and Slimjet. It's Chrome based but has a much smaller footprint and doesn't hog my memory, like Chrome. It also "feels" faster than Chrome.

My experience with Edge is limited to it's very early edition, years ago. It was crappy back then and never used it again. I used Chrome from day one, switched to Firefox for a while, now found Slimjet.

IE, to me has been, still is, a bitch to use. My work computers, except the break room comp, (that has been modified) are all firewalled to only use IE. The breakroom comp is open and I have Slimjet on it! ;) My employees enjoy the use of Youtube on their breaks, as do I. Unfortunately, it's a single core Celeron, that gets bottlenecked by Youtube!! Oh well. LOL.

I do miss Netscape, in a nostalgic, melancholy way. It was WAY better than anything else, back then!

/rambling
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#88
londiste
ArjaiMy experience with Edge is limited to it's very early edition, years ago. It was crappy back then and never used it again.
If you are on Windows 10, give it a shot. It is not as bad as it was in the early days.
rtwjunkieTwo thoughts: yes it was perfect for phones. The tiles is the single best feature of the windows phones. I’d like to see something like that model carry over to android or Apple.
Tiles were excellent on the phone. I really miss my Windows 10 Phone, the UI was well built and as smooth as iOS yet far more open.
Also, Windows 10 is in many ways built upon what Windows 8 did. Windows 10's Tablet mode is usable and awesome. That expecially goes for UWP/Windows Store software (that I inherently hate due to walled garden).
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#89
Slizzo
EasoUhh, wasnt that AdBlock/Adblock+ thing? Seems that the plague is everywhere. Yes, it is uBlock Origin. Just go to MS store and look under Extensions :)
It was. And uBlock did the same thing when they bought it out from the original dev. He didn't like where they were taking it so he made uBlock Origin.
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#90
StrayKAT
I'd love to see more extensions, but I don't really need much. I mostly just need plain old AdBlock (these guys: getadblock.com) and MS Translator, which works better than other translator extensions imho.
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#91
plonk420
FordGT90ConceptEdge is derived from UWP which is intrinsic to so many parts of the Windows and Xbox One ecosystems.
ah, that makes a bit more sense as to why Imgur crashed the OS on me when Win10+Edge was in wide beta
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#92
Ravenas
Microsoft should have opted to go with the Gecko engine. Firefox is faster and more lightweight in my opinion. It has plenty of APP support and themes.
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