Thursday, January 24th 2019
AMD Zen 2 12-Core, 24-Thread Matisse CPU Spotted in UserBenchmark
A new development could shake up our expectations on AMD's new Ryzen 2 CPUs, which if true, could mean that previous rumors of much increased core-counts at the top of AMD's offerings were true. User TUM Apisak, who has been involved in multiple information leaks and scouting for the hardware world, has digged enough to find a submitted UserBenchmark that screams of a 12-core, 24-thread AMD Matisse part (an engineering sample at that, so keep your hats on for the presented clock speeds).
The benchmark list the used CPU via product code 2D3212BGMCWH2_37 / 34_N (H2 is indicative of a Matisse CPU The benchmark is listing a base clock speed of 3.4 GHz and an average boost clock speed of 3.6 GHz. The rest of the system specs are very, very basic, with 4 GB of 1333 MHz DDR4 memory being used on a new AMD platform, based on the Myrtle-MTS based chipset. The processor is listed having a 105 watts TDP and 32 MB of L3 cache.
Sources:
TUM Apisak Twitter, User Benchmark
The benchmark list the used CPU via product code 2D3212BGMCWH2_37 / 34_N (H2 is indicative of a Matisse CPU The benchmark is listing a base clock speed of 3.4 GHz and an average boost clock speed of 3.6 GHz. The rest of the system specs are very, very basic, with 4 GB of 1333 MHz DDR4 memory being used on a new AMD platform, based on the Myrtle-MTS based chipset. The processor is listed having a 105 watts TDP and 32 MB of L3 cache.
35 Comments on AMD Zen 2 12-Core, 24-Thread Matisse CPU Spotted in UserBenchmark
promising...
i hope there's 16 cores of the next ryzen
16 cores then take my money pls :lovetpu:
I don't use "UserBenchmark" myself, and have no idea how reliable and consistent it really is, but I put together a small comparison with a few other results from the same page:
(keep in mind some of these might be slightly skewed due to some benchmarks being overclocked)
I am curious if the 4GB of memory had any impact though.
So, 8 core = 32MB, 16 core = 32MB
On a semi-related note it would be a very interesting twist if the I/O die turned out to have an L4 cache. I could see that helping with the MCM design and giving a nice uplift in games and other programs.
cpu.userbenchmark.com/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X/Rating/3958
A good 2700X system seems to get ~1300 in multicore and 120 in singlecore..... with 3GHz DDR4. So this (supposed) 12-core Zen 2 CPU is getting a 34% higher multicore, and only 20% lower single core while using 1333MHz ram and 10-15% lower clocks.
Hopefully this indeed means that Zen 2 will have more than enough bandwidth with dual channel DDR4.
Take a look at the quad & multi core scores for the sample, worse scaling than 2700x which suggests gimped memory &/or awful clocks. Now with just 4GB RAM I'd guess it's the former.
Also memory does impact it and at the moment there is too many suspects.
Memory latency is on par with zen+, however this is at substantionally lower clocks so we should see it better too.
Thus we see single core and latency improvements which should help out gaming and that is practically confirmed.
I don't know about this specific benchmark, but I would have run it with dual channel memory and at least 16 GB to make sure it's not bottlenecked.
Considering Zen+ supports DDR4-2933 JEDEC, I think it's safe to assume Zen 2 will at least support this speed, probably DDR-3200 JEDEC too.
In this case I think we got a chip made of two chiplets with only 6 functioning cores each, but full access to their 16 MB of L3 so 32 MB total.
I still don't think this was a real "lets test performance" benchmark. Thinking about it now, I personally now think this was testing the Infinite fabric between the I/O and two chiplets to test for bottlenecks or traffic flow issues. Otherwise, why would they gimp the config with 4 GB of single channel memory.
I pointed it out because I don't think this was about performance or these are final clock speeds or top configuration. I just think this was a function test and a way for AMD to show Ryzen 3k will have more than 8 cores. Thus whoever did it just stuck in the minimum RAM needed to get the system to boot.