Tuesday, February 26th 2019

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 and GTX 1650 Pricing and Availability Revealed

(Update 1: Andreas Schilling, at Hardware Luxx, seems to have obtained confirmation that NVIDIA's GTX 1650 graphics cards will pack 4 GB of GDDR5 memory, and that the GTX 1660 will be offering a 6 GB GDDR5 framebuffer.)

NVIDIA recently launched its GeForce GTX 1660 Ti graphics card at USD $279, which is the most affordable desktop discrete graphics card based on the "Turing" architecture thus far. NVIDIA's GeForce 16-series GPUs are based on 12 nm "Turing" chips, but lack RTX real-time ray-tracing and tensor cores that accelerate AI. The company is making two affordable additions to the GTX 16-series in March and April, according to Taiwan-based PC industry observer DigiTimes.

The GTX 1660 Ti launch will be followed by that of the GeForce GTX 1660 (non-Ti) on 15th March, 2019. This SKU is likely based on the same "TU116" silicon as the GTX 1660 Ti, but with fewer CUDA cores and possibly slower memory or lesser memory amount. NVIDIA is pricing the GTX 1660 at $229.99, a whole $50 cheaper than the GTX 1660 Ti. That's not all. We recently reported on the GeForce GTX 1650, which could quite possibly become NVIDIA's smallest "Turing" based desktop GPU. This product is real, and is bound for 30th April, at $179.99, $50 cheaper still than the GTX 1660. This SKU is expected to be based on the smaller "TU117" silicon. Much like the GTX 1660 Ti, these two launches could be entirely partner-driven, with the lack of reference-design cards.
Sources: DigiTimes, Andreas Schilling @ Twitter
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44 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 and GTX 1650 Pricing and Availability Revealed

#26
Vayra86
Fouquin

Which 1060 would you like? The 1060, 1060, or 1060? Keep in mind every one of these has either measurably different performance, or simply different pricing. I hope that they keep the 1660s well organized and don't refresh it every few months without changing the name.
Actually no, they all perform quite the same, only the 3GB version performs differently and the 5GB version is extremely rare, if you can even find one today. The specs on all of these 6GB versions are the same, or better than the original version. Nobody is losing a minute's sleep over this. Also, there are no weird cutdowns or assymmetrical memory setups to be found either, there is no 'slow memory' version, etc etc.
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#27
Xaled
Fouquin

Which 1060 would you like? The 1060, 1060, or 1060? Keep in mind every one of these has either measurably different performance, or simply different pricing. I hope that they keep the 1660s well organized and don't refresh it every few months without changing the name.
In order for this naming tactic to work, they release the better version first! Then flood the market with lower version!
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#29
Camm
Whilst I'm somewhat excited for the 1650, what are with these prices? Yeesh.
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#30
medi01
dj-electricby AMD
AMD has nothing to do with it whatsoever, young one.
nVidia was outselling AMD with Shite Totale like Fermi and is still outselling 470/570 with Shite Totale like 1050/150Ti.

What actually happened is mild "we won't bend over backwards much more than that" from consumers, which lead to whopping 25% less than estimated sales by Huang's green thing.
Vayra86Naming in Nvidia's stack is pretty clear
Wow, is that 270 degrees?
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#31
dicktracy
AMD is dead to me. Wake me up when it's Nvidia vs Intel.
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#32
Casecutter
dj-electricAs much as given to them by AMD. The GTX 1660 will set to compete straight against the brand new and never seen before Polaris GPU equipped RX 590.
Well perhaps for 6mo's... then we will probably see a true 1440p capable offerings for $240.
Buying just a 1080p capable cards today for that feels like really a bad wager.

While we should feel ingratiated with a small GPU that can offer acceptable 1080p finally in 2019, for $180? You could've had that back in August, 2016 at that price. Today it's the $130 price point without even looking hard for a deal.
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#33
efikkan
ArbitraryAffectionSapphire pulse 56 is£280 with 3 AAA games...
Well, sales are sales, and as long as it's not a price drop, it's unfair to compare the value of a sale vs. something with a regular price. Sale prices should of course be considered at the moment when buying something, but not when discussing the value of various products. AMD products are not the only ones with discounts, it happens to Nvidia cards all the time too. I've even seen GTX 1660 Ti at a discount below MSRP, and that card is just a few days old.

Additionally, many Vega cards have a poor cooler which makes them unbearable for most users.

So until AMD actually drops the price of Vega 56, and versions with acceptable coolers are actually available at that price, they are pretty much unsalable.
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#34
ArbitraryAffection
efikkanWell, sales are sales, and as long as it's not a price drop, it's unfair to compare the value of a sale vs. something with a regular price. Sale prices should of course be considered at the moment when buying something, but when discussing the value of various products. AMD products are not the only ones with discounts, it happens to Nvidia cards all the time too. I've even seen GTX 1660 Ti at a discount below MSRP, and that card is just a few days old.

Additionally, many Vega cards have a poor cooler which makes them unbearable for most users.

So until AMD actually drops the price of Vega 56, and versions with acceptable coolers are actually available at that price, they are pretty much unsalable.
Lol the Pulse is an excellent cooler and it's £280 with 3 AAA games right now. You can't really say sales are sales "buh the 1660ti will get sales too!" Unless there's a 1660 Ti right now with an equal game bundle thats below MSRP then it doesn't matter. If someone wants a video card right now below 300 quid, the vega 56 pulse is a better choice because it's the same speed, has more VRAM and comes with like £150 worth of video games. Doesn't matter if it's not an official price cut. I know it's probably quite hard to accept that AMD is offering a better product here but they are.
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#35
trog100
ArbitraryAffectionLol the Pulse is an excellent cooler and it's £280 with 3 AAA games right now. You can't really say sales are sales "buh the 1660ti will get sales too!" Unless there's a 1660 Ti right now with an equal game bundle thats below MSRP then it doesn't matter. If someone wants a video card right now below 300 quid, the vega 56 pulse is a better choice because it's the same speed, has more VRAM and comes with like £150 worth of video games. Doesn't matter if it's not an official price cut. I know it's probably quite hard to accept that AMD is offering a better product here but they are.
swap the word product for the word deal and you might be right even though its a one off act of desperation trying to sell what is in fact an inferior product.. he he

but for now amd have lost the game..

trog
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#36
ArbitraryAffection
trog100swap the word product for the word deal and you might be right even though its a one off act of desperation trying to sell what is in fact an inferior product.. he he

but for now amd have lost the game..

trog
Increase the power limit on that Pulse and you have basically 2060 performance with 8GB of vram. So in fact it's faster and has more memory capacity. The Pulse cooler is fantastic. It may even be quieter than the trash you get on cheap 1660 Ti.



The fact the heatsink overhangs increases cooling capbility and reduces noise. I have owned this card and can attest to how good it is. The only thing the 1660 Ti has is lower power use and heat output. So in some cases it may be preferable. But for any gamer with a decent rig looking for a sub 300 quid GPU, the pulse is better. It's not really subjective, either. I know, hon. I know it's hard to accept that an AMD card is better than the newly released Nvidia one. But I won't just not reply and potentially let gamers looking to buy read the smear campaign against AMD by NV fannies. I was considering getting a GeForce againt but actually I'd rather buy a console than buy into that company's crap. ^^)

I wonder if 1650 will not be DOA when 8GB 570 is hitting £150 here. Radeon isn't out of the game yet.:love:
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#37
efikkan
ArbitraryAffectionLol the Pulse is an excellent cooler and it's £280 with 3 AAA games right now. You can't really say sales are sales "buh the 1660ti will get sales too!" Unless there's a 1660 Ti right now with an equal game bundle thats below MSRP then it doesn't matter. If someone wants a video card right now below 300 quid, the vega 56 pulse is a better choice because it's the same speed, has more VRAM and comes with like £150 worth of video games. Doesn't matter if it's not an official price cut. I know it's probably quite hard to accept that AMD is offering a better product here but they are.
You totally missed the point.
It's fine to consider sales when you're buying, but when discussing the general value of products, we have to consider the list price. It doesn't matter for everyone else if you right now can find one at a discount in your country, that deal might be gone in days or even hours. These sales are simply irrelevant to the discussion about the value of these products.
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#38
B-Real
notb1660 looks excellent. $229 is less than 1060 6GB MSRP ($249) and - based on rumored specs and 1660Ti results - it should easily be 20% faster.
You know you said something stupid? An AIB GTX 1050Ti was ~15% faster than an AIB 960 and had twice more VRAM. The 1050Ti was $50 cheaper. And now you clap your hands for a ~20 faster, maybe $20 cheaper GPU that has the same amount of VRAM? :D lol
notbYou'd have to be deaf or stupid to choose a blower Vega over pretty much anything available at this price point.

How much is Vega 56 with a human-friendly cooler in UK? 350-400 GBP? For that kind of money you can get the MSI Gaming 2060, which is faster and will still be quieter.

Seriously, it's no contest at the moment. You should stop defending Vega and focus on hyping Navi.
Why would someone be deaf or stupid? :O First, 80-90% of the gamers use headphones I assume. Second, you haven't heard of UV right? Lowering power consumption with dozens of Watts, thug getting lower temps. Third, even the worst AIB variations of Vega 56 (Sapphire Pulse) keep it around 65C. Forth , as ArbitraryAffection wrote, there is the Sapphire Pulse for less than £280 with 3 games worth of £150. But yes, buy the RTX 2060 with 1 game for £300+. :D
Yeah, no contest. RX570 is selling for less than a 1050Ti and it's ~45% faster than the 1050Ti plus you get 2 AAA titles for the AMD while 0 for the 1050Ti. So basically you get an RX570 4GB for around $30-40, making it ultimately the best midrange GPU (even with bigger advantage after the price reduction, as it was already the best alternative in midrange). RX 580 (with 2 games) is way cheaper than GTX 1060 6GB (with 0 games) and a bit faster. Vega 56 (with 3 games) is £20 more expensive than the 1660Ti while being 10% stronger and giving 3 games against 1660Ti's 0. It's also £20 cheaper than a 2060 (with 1 game) and the 2060 is only 7% faster and having 2GB less VRAM. So no competition really? LOL Greenboy.
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#39
ArbitraryAffection
efikkanYou totally missed the point.
It's fine to consider sales when you're buying, but when discussing the general value of products, we have to consider the list price. It doesn't matter for everyone else if you right now can find one at a discount in your country, that deal might be gone in days or even hours. These sales are simply irrelevant to the discussion about the value of these products.
Fair enough, but I think official price cuts are coming. 590 sorely needs one.
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#40
kings
B-RealYou know you said something stupid? An AIB GTX 1050Ti was ~15% faster than an AIB 960 and had twice more VRAM. The 1050Ti was $50 cheaper. And now you clap your hands for a ~20 faster, maybe $20 cheaper GPU that has the same amount of VRAM? :D lol
Well, if I remember, you clapped when AMD released the RX 590, 10% faster and 25%~30% more expensive than RX 580 at the time!

In the reality of things, the 1660 could be more interesting compared to the 1060, than the RX 590 was in relation to the RX 580.
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#41
syrup
Waiting for the 1670/1680.
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#42
8BitZ80
I'm waiting for the GT 1630 (or whatever it'll be called). I switched out my R9 270X for a GT 1030 and ended up using it for 6 months, it was a nice card. Ended up sidelining it when I got a 1060.
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#43
TheGuruStud
syrupWaiting for the 1670/1680.
I need some extra ti skus, too. We can never have enough redundant skus.
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#44
notb
TheGuruStudI need some extra ti skus, too. We can never have enough redundant skus.
As long as there's a significant difference in price and any difference in performance, selling another product makes sense.

"Significant" is subjective, but lets be honest: $20 is a lot of money at this price point.

And you know... it's not just about performance.
Even if non-Ti is just 5% slower, but it doesn't need a power connector or coolers are much smaller, it still makes a big difference.
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