Friday, May 10th 2019
MSI Teases MEG X570 Ace Motherboard for Zen 2
With the 2019 Computex almost upon us, motherboard vendors are ready with socket AM4 motherboards based on AMD X570 chipset, which launches alongside the company's first wave of 3rd generation Ryzen "Matisse" processors based on the 7 nm "Zen 2" architecture. MSI put out a teaser animation of its flagship motherboard based on the AMD X570, the MEG X570 Ace. MEG, or MSI Extreme Gaming, is the company's top tier of client-segment motherboards, positioned above MPG (MSI Performance Gaming), and MAG (MSI Arsenal Gaming). Within MEG, MSI has three known sub-brands, GODLIKE, Creation, and Ace. The MEG Ace brand is the cheapest of the three, and designed to offer the most high-end features at its price-point.
Given that the company is teasing a MEG Ace product, it could be testing the waters with "Zen 2," and probably begin working on a GODLIKE product only if these processors establish a superiority over not just the i9-9900K, but also the upcoming 10-core "Comet Lake" chip. AMD's flagship is rumored to be the Ryzen 9 3850X, a mammoth 16-core/32-thread chip clocked up to 5.10 GHz. The "5 6 7" artwork with interposing "3000" indicate three distinct things: The highlighted "6" indicates onboard 802.11ax (Wi-Fi 6) controller. The 5 and 7 could indicate the X570 chipset. The "3000" of course references Ryzen 3000 series.
Source:
MSI Gaming (Twitter)
Given that the company is teasing a MEG Ace product, it could be testing the waters with "Zen 2," and probably begin working on a GODLIKE product only if these processors establish a superiority over not just the i9-9900K, but also the upcoming 10-core "Comet Lake" chip. AMD's flagship is rumored to be the Ryzen 9 3850X, a mammoth 16-core/32-thread chip clocked up to 5.10 GHz. The "5 6 7" artwork with interposing "3000" indicate three distinct things: The highlighted "6" indicates onboard 802.11ax (Wi-Fi 6) controller. The 5 and 7 could indicate the X570 chipset. The "3000" of course references Ryzen 3000 series.
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so thats the grapics cards scandal and here is the ryzen
www.techpowerup.com/254669/msi-issues-clarification-on-next-gen-amd-cpu-support-on-300-series-motherboards?cp=5
I doubt this is true, the customer support agent was prob telling truth, MSI just was testing waters and had no choice but to backtrack.
The Matisse clock speed seems to go higher if all the rumors are any indication, and the IPC as well.
Unfortunately, people have been mixing up that 15 % higher performance with 15 % IPC. I guess it's hard to read correctly when the hype train is running at full speed. :D
Latencies tho, I really wonder if it can be improved while using multiple chips for a CPU, that's still the million dollar question.
When was the last time AMD had a product as competitive as Matisse, what's your take? ;)
Yeah, maybe I'm asking to much here..
The FX chips? I don't want to get peoples hopes up too much, but I have a hard time seeing anyone being disappointed with what AMD has coming. Obviously it'll come down to pricing, as so many things. Expect more expensive motherboards, as I've mentioned around the forums before.
sounds weird to me. I wouldn't be surprised if the price is cut a bit for 6 and 8 core, but above those it will cost a bit more.
Remember, Ryzen 1800X started at $500. The FX-53 was $900. Those prices clearly reflects how competitive they are.
Ryzen 9 3850X—16C/32T, 4.3GHz to 5.1GHz, 135W TDP, $499
Ryzen 9 3800X—16C/32T, 3.9GHz to 4.7GHz, 125W TDP, $449
Ryzen 7 3700X—12C/24T, 4.2GHz to 5.0GHz, 105W TDP, $329
Ryzen 7 3700—12C/24T, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 95W TPD, $299
Ryzen 5 3600X—8C/16T, 4.0GHz to 4.8GHz, 95W TDP, $229
Ryzen 5 3600—8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 65W TDP, $178
Ryzen 3 3300X—6C/12T, 3.5GHz to 4.3GHz, 65W TDP, $129
Ryzen 3 3300—6C/12T, 3.2GHz to 4.0GHz, 50W TDP, $99
According to this, the 3600 would be $21 cheaper than the 2600 and the 3600X, 3700 and 3700X would cost the same as the Zen+ equivalents. If you compare the 3850X to the 2950X (in terms of core number), it is $400 less than the Threadripper. Which would be quite amazing.
That's way too low. A low price would be the next 8 core to be right between the launch price of the 2600X and the 2700X, ie $280. Anything lower wouldn't make sense to me.
The 2700X got cheaper than the 1700X, most likely because of the competition, but the situation is a lot different now. There's no point in selling the 8 core for half the price of Intels 8 core, that's just really bad business. (And don't say it's for grabbing market share, my guess is that making money is more important for AMD right now.)
Have the prices EVER dropped that much in the past when a competitive CPU has been launched?