Monday, May 27th 2019
AMD Announces Radeon RX 5700 Based on Navi: RDNA, 7nm, PCIe Gen4, GDDR6
AMD at its 2019 Computex keynote today unveiled the Radeon RX 5000 family of graphics cards that leverage its new Navi graphics architecture and 7 nm silicon fabrication process. Navi isn't just an incremental upgrade over Vega with a handful new technologies, but the biggest overhaul to AMD's GPU SIMD design since Graphics CoreNext, circa 2011. Called RDNA or Radeon DNA, the new compute unit by AMD is a clean-slate SIMD design with a 1.25X IPC uplift over Vega, an overhauled on-chip cache hierarchy, and a more streamlined graphics pipeline.
In addition, the architecture is designed to increase performance-per-Watt by 50 percent over Vega. The first part to leverage Navi is the Radeon RX 5700. AMD ran a side-by-side demo of the RX 5700 versus the GeForce RTX 2070 at Strange Brigade, where NVIDIA's $500 card was beaten. "Strange Brigade" is one game where AMD fares generally well as it is heavily optimized for asynchonous compute. Navi also ticks two big technology check-boxes, PCI-Express gen 4.0, and GDDR6 memory. AMD has planned a July availability for the RX 5700, and did not disclose pricing.
In addition, the architecture is designed to increase performance-per-Watt by 50 percent over Vega. The first part to leverage Navi is the Radeon RX 5700. AMD ran a side-by-side demo of the RX 5700 versus the GeForce RTX 2070 at Strange Brigade, where NVIDIA's $500 card was beaten. "Strange Brigade" is one game where AMD fares generally well as it is heavily optimized for asynchonous compute. Navi also ticks two big technology check-boxes, PCI-Express gen 4.0, and GDDR6 memory. AMD has planned a July availability for the RX 5700, and did not disclose pricing.
202 Comments on AMD Announces Radeon RX 5700 Based on Navi: RDNA, 7nm, PCIe Gen4, GDDR6
The decoder chips in TVs are vastly more simple than GPUs.
Edit: If this is the TV you're talking about it looks like the only HDMI 2.1 feature they added was eARC...which is simple.
So if a gamer wants to have their PC connected to their 4K HDTV and run their PC games at 4K rez at a maximum of 120Hz, and maintains your 4:4:4 subsampling and is still silky smooth, this can be done with HDMI 2.0, as long as the 4k HDTV is decent, that has a 120hz true processor inside and can do that while keeping the 4 4 4 subsamp, HDR,etc,etc, Some of these 4k Sets claim it can do 120hz but honestly its not true 120hz, its 60hz but most mid-range 4k sets, that have come out in the last few years or for sure this year..can do this.
Navi 5800 will be 10%-15% faster than Rtx 2080
Navi 5900 will be 10%-15% faster than Rtx 2080ti and the 5900 series will have (7nm+ Arcturus hardware accelerated Ray Tracing) features, and that specific Gpu will launch mid 2020
Navi 5700 will be their entry level Navi mid range Gpu which will beat a 2070 launching this July, and then in 2020 we'll get the 5800 & 5900 Gpu's which will beat the 2080 & 2080ti respectively
The 5700 & 5800 based Pc parts will be standard off the shelf Gpu's without any specific hardware accelerated Ray Tracing features baked in, however the next Gen consoles will get fully custom Navi based Gpu's with the 5900 hardware accelerated 7nm+ Arcturus Ray Tracing features built into the silicon as these next Gen console's will be the real deal Holyfield people.
Xbox Anaconda will use the full custom 5900 Gpu with advanced Ray Tracing Arcturus features....
Ps5 will use a custom 5800 Gpu with advanced Ray Tracing Arcturus Features....
Xbox Lockhart will use a custom 5700 Gpu with advanced Ray Tracing Arcturus Features....
These consoles will perform far higher than the +10% figures of the Pc parts above due to the way consoles work with deep console level optimization, and closed loop ultra low level to the Metal console Api's......
These console versions of Navi will be custom parts which are far more advanced than the Pc parts........
Next Gen console's Xbox Anaconda & Ps5 will absolutely murder the performance of an Rtx 2070 level Pc as Anaconda will be faster than an Rtx 2080ti, and ps5 will be faster than an Rtx 2080, and Xbox Lockhart will be faster than an Rtx 2070
I suspect Navi only has 8-10 billion transistors compared to 18.5 billion in RTX 2080 Ti and 13.5 billion in Radeon VII. The fact it is knocking on Radeon VII's door with GDDR6 and much fewer transistors is a testament to RDNA's design.
I'm hopeful for Navi, but this is just silly.
My Expections
RX 5700= RTX 2060+%7
RX 5800= RTX 2070
RX 5900= RTX 2070+%10
RX 5900 XT= RTX 2080
Can't have inaccuracies on the forums, jeez.
PS
And why always so outraged?
Anyway. Is this brand new or not? I see many conflicting arguments. Me I'm cautiously optimistic, in this context defined as "might perform almost as good as they say in a best case scenario".
www.cryengine.com/news/how-we-made-neon-noir-ray-traced-reflections-in-cryengine-and-more#
"However, RTX will allow the effects to run at a higher resolution. At the moment on GTX 1080, we usually compute reflections and refractions at half-screen resolution. RTX will probably allow full-screen 4k resolution. It will also help us to have more dynamic elements in the scene, whereas currently, we have some limitations. Broadly speaking, RTX will not allow new features in CRYENGINE, but it will enable better performance and more details. "
As for 'being outraged'... I think that's more up to your misguided interpretation of the world around you than anything else. The fact you're not aware of the above source speaks volumes. There is no outrage here.
As for 'being mad'... I think that's more up to your misguided interpretation of the world around you than anything else. There is no "being mad" here.Because RTX gimmick is... cough.
RTX shadows are actually way crappier than what is shown above. That's why heavy denoising is an inherent part of it.
If you're not mad, stop swearing. Beyond that, its clear you're just looking for things to disagree on, have fun with that.
Why did yo react like that? BH? Sigh.
And for the other part, perhaps RTX cores are not as "specialized" as someone wants us to believe.
It is your misguided interpretation of the world around you multiplied by some tribalism more than anything.
I don't have any feelings (in either direction) about anyone posting on this forum.I don't think I care enough to remember you tomorrow. So, uh, well, just don't reply.
Are they finally doing their own design though, their RX 500 -series and Vegas were mostly subpar products.
It was announced publicly in January 2017, nearly 2½ years ago, and that's to the public. Who knows how long it was developed and discussed behind the scenes prior to this. I am extremely bummed HDMI 2.1 is apparently not supported by these cards. I expected the PCIE 4.0 announcement to be the perfect time for AMD to really jump ahead with their GPU feature support. Such a missed opportunity imo.