Monday, June 17th 2019
Intel "Ice Lake" IPC Best-Case a Massive 40% Uplift Over "Skylake," 18% on Average
Intel late-May made its first major disclosure of the per-core CPU performance gains achieved with its "Ice Lake" processor that packs "Sunny Cove" CPU cores. Averaged across a spectrum of benchmarks, Intel claims a best-case scenario IPC (instructions per clock) uplift of a massive 40 percent over "Skylake," and a mean uplift of 18 percent. The worst-case scenario sees its performance negligibly below that of "Skylake." Intel's IPC figures are derived entirely across synthetic benchmarks, which include SPEC 2016, SPEC 2017, SYSMark 2014 SE, WebXprt, and CineBench R15. The comparison to "Skylake" is relevant because Intel has been using essentially the same CPU core in the succeeding three generations that include "Kaby Lake" and "Coffee Lake."
A Chinese tech-forum member with access to an "Ice Lake" 6-core/12-thread sample put the chip through the CPU-Z internal benchmark (test module version 17.01). At a clock-speed of 3.60 GHz, the "Ice Lake" chip allegedly achieved a single-core score of 635 points. To put this number into perspective, a Ryzen 7 3800X "Matisse" supposedly needs to run at 4.70 GHz to match this score, and a Core i7-7700K "Kaby Lake" needs to run at 5.20 GHz. Desktop "Ice Lake" processors are unlikely to launch in 2019. The first "Ice Lake" processors are 4-core/8-thread chips designed for ultraportable notebook platforms, which come out in Q4-2019, and desktop "Ice Lake" parts are expected only in 2020.
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WCCFTech
A Chinese tech-forum member with access to an "Ice Lake" 6-core/12-thread sample put the chip through the CPU-Z internal benchmark (test module version 17.01). At a clock-speed of 3.60 GHz, the "Ice Lake" chip allegedly achieved a single-core score of 635 points. To put this number into perspective, a Ryzen 7 3800X "Matisse" supposedly needs to run at 4.70 GHz to match this score, and a Core i7-7700K "Kaby Lake" needs to run at 5.20 GHz. Desktop "Ice Lake" processors are unlikely to launch in 2019. The first "Ice Lake" processors are 4-core/8-thread chips designed for ultraportable notebook platforms, which come out in Q4-2019, and desktop "Ice Lake" parts are expected only in 2020.
153 Comments on Intel "Ice Lake" IPC Best-Case a Massive 40% Uplift Over "Skylake," 18% on Average
AMD shows the most biased and misleading benchmarks -> "yes!! Intel is done!! AMD will conquer the world!!"
Intel has leaked benchmarks where 5,2 ghz = the new 3,6ghz, wich is amazimg -> "lol intel. Lol this is fake. Lol only 18% improvement. Lol this is never coming to desktop"
Seriously you guys are annoying. If this IPC improvements are true, oh boy, they gonna rip AMD apart on mobile and they will on desktop once they cam do it. I am for sure gonna be waiting.
Skylake, CFL and sunny cove is 14NM , 10NM = low clocks hence the reason why they will be on 14NM for desktop because performance is LOWER for 10nm!.
On the bright side for Intel!
I see no issues with Intel with 10nm for laptops, quite the contrary if they can get the chips out the door and I see no way amd's design will create big wins in the 7-25W space Intel wins, 25->45W Amd wins.
I may be mistaken by amd on low power laptops.
Bottom Line, Intel will struggle till 2021 on the cpu side but carried by low power cpu's and datacenter for AVX512 implementations, but I'm optimistic about their gpu and I hope they are back in 2021 with promising new designs :)
This is not that different from what AMD is doing by the way. AMD does not have the frequency problem as Zen - or rather, GF/TSMC 14nm/12nm process - never clocked that high. At the same time Zen2 architectural changes have a lot in common with Sunny Cove changes.
as well as this one:
10nm++ will exist but effectively will be overcome by 7nm in 2021. The second slide's "10nm Client Systems on Shelf for 2019 Holiday Season" matches Dell leak's mobile 10nm - and there was a passing mention of mobile in Intel's meeting - as well as servers in 1H'20 matches what I said above (and Dell's leak).
Whether Intel will be able to make their roadmap a reality is a separate discussion but they are quite clear about their plans.
Keep in mind though that both compared CPUs are Intel's and security patches' performance hit is definitely bigger on Skylake with mitigations enabled.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ice Lake is Intel's codename for the 10th generation Intel Core processors based on the new Sunny Cove microarchitecture.
WTF????
someone explain this shit to me, because I am completely perplexed.
Salty Intel fanboy is salty seemingly.
also if nothing else, I would think you would be pissed off knowing Intel was comfortably sitting on that "5.2 - 3.6 ghz" improvement but the bosses saying "no dont push that out now, spread if over many years of full price products, more money for us".
Its would be only now that Intel is being pushed by some competition that they get off their lazy greedy selfish behinds.
As for the question about AMd misleading benchmarks, ask Steve Burke from GamersNexus.
And no, AMD leaks are pretty much never accurate, thats the reason why this is probably fake as well...
In fact Im kinda convinced AMD leaks are done by anti AMD people to get people hyped up about improbable products so they are disappointed when the final products dont live up to that hype, hence attempting to damage the image.
For example the 5ghz claim, or that Ryzen 3000 would all be one tier difference, like this nonsense: eteknix-eteknixltd.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AMD-Ryzen-3000-Singapore-Leak.jpg