Friday, July 5th 2019
Confirmed: AMD to Cut RX 5700-series Prices at Launch
AMD in a Facebook post late Friday confirmed that its Radeon RX 5700 series graphics cards will launch at reduced prices compared to what it announced at its E3-2019 product announcement. The Radeon RX 5700 XT will have a reduced MSRP of USD $399, which puts it on par with that of the GeForce RTX 2060 Super. The Radeon RX 5700 will cost $50 less, at $349, which puts its price on par with the original RTX 2060. The commemorative limited-edition RX 5700 XT AMD 50th Anniversary Edition is now reduced to $449. AMD didn't announce any changes to the two cards' launch bundle that include a 3-month Xbox Game Pass for PC.
Commenting on the development, AMD said "We embrace competition, which drives innovation to the benefit of gamers. In that spirit, we are updating the pricing of our Radeon RX 5700 Series graphics cards, launching July 7." The company added "We know that gamers will be thrilled once they have the opportunity to experience the amazing performance, stunning visual fidelity and highly responsive gameplay these new graphics cards provide. Making history on 7/7 as the first company to launch gaming CPUs and GPUs together - the first in 7nm and PCIe 4.0 - is all about pushing the ultimate gaming experience forward for as many gamers as possible."
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AMD (Facebook)
Commenting on the development, AMD said "We embrace competition, which drives innovation to the benefit of gamers. In that spirit, we are updating the pricing of our Radeon RX 5700 Series graphics cards, launching July 7." The company added "We know that gamers will be thrilled once they have the opportunity to experience the amazing performance, stunning visual fidelity and highly responsive gameplay these new graphics cards provide. Making history on 7/7 as the first company to launch gaming CPUs and GPUs together - the first in 7nm and PCIe 4.0 - is all about pushing the ultimate gaming experience forward for as many gamers as possible."
102 Comments on Confirmed: AMD to Cut RX 5700-series Prices at Launch
And it all comes down to comparable options. If there were no competitors, then people would be more inclined to accept it, but when there is a competitor, it will be viewed as a disadvantage.
The direct competitor to RX 5700 XT will be RTX 2060 Super, and RX 5700 XT offers the advantage of ~5% more performance, while being very hot, noisy and consuming ~20% more energy. I believe the RX 5700 XT will be a hard sell, but if it offered 15% more performance it would be more justified.
Partner cards may of course help with the noise and temperature, but the other disadvantages will remain.
Talking 5700, it wins clearly and handily against what? It's 5% faster than the similarly priced 2060. It's a tremendous (nice) surprise that it matches the 2060 in perf/W as well, but when you look at the 5700XT you see the perf/W ratio already can't keep up. Which kinda puts a lid on future faster Navi cards.
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700/31.html
With the 5700XT, the power usage AND performance is comparable to the 2070 & 2070Super(and edges close to the 2080 in some tests) and is within 10% of the numbers of those cards.
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/31.html
If you're going to make comparisons, make sure your comparisons are both within context and meet with logic and reason.
AMD made another, smaller Vega, calls it Navi and the performance is still stalling at GTX 1080 levels, give or take. Has been for the past two years now. They made a leap on price (if you don't look at the now discounted Vega cards that have been around since forever at similar price), and a leap on perf/watt and some minor architecture optimizations. The biggest win here is GDDR6.
If people really think these will sell like hotcakes, I do wonder why they didn't bother to jump on any of the half-dozen similar cards that have been out now for quite a while.
Let's just focus on Ryzen release because this is about as interesting as watching paint dry. Its June 8 2019 and we're discussing cards that do May 2016 performance as if they're relevant. Get real
And 5700xt still offers a good value when compared to nvidia because it offered 20% faster card that gtx 1080 and %20 cheaper option.
I mean the 5700XT is half-decent, but its performance is all over the place. Best case it gets around 1080ti levels, but then in many, many games it really does not, making it effectively pointless. And its hot, really, really hot at doing so. Then there is the 5700 which looks a lot more balanced overall and comfy to use, but that one lacks the absolute performance to make a dent.
I'm getting a real Hawaii/Hawaii XT feeling with these cards. I really hope we can get another Sapphire Tri-X miracle here - which doesn't get priced to the moon at that. That's a lot of stars needing to align to make a good offer.
RDNA is the same microarch as Vega?
Making Vega smaller somehow makes it faster? (it's 10.3 billion transistors minus around 10% for 5700, vs 12.5 billion on Vega 64)
Wah? :D
And being 17% faster than 1080 and 7% slower than 1080Ti, means having "1080 levels give or take", really?
Basicaly a faster than 1080 card, with slightly better power consumption, for $350.Nah. Even though NVs inventory keeps growing, I'd rather greed wins and no price cuts. Team green doesn't deserve them.
RTX 2060 Super: 184 W
RX 5700 XT: 219 W
219/184=1.190217391
Unless the laws of mathematics has changed recently, that's a little more than 19% higher.
RX 5700: 180w
RTX 2060 super: 192w
RTX 2070: 203w
RTX 2070Super: 220w
RX 5700XT: 227w
And, why compare apples to bananas at all, perf per watt is directly presented by TPU:
And, oh noes, 2060 and 2060 super are both beaten by 5700, XT is 14% behind.
5700 consumes 10w more than 2060, but beats it by perf/watt, hmm... wait for it, because it is FASTER.
My 1060 is 20% slower than these and I still don't feel like upgrading (I would, for the performance, but not at these price points). To me picking one card over another because of +/- 5% performance difference is just crazy.
(God I miss HardOCP's "highest playable settings" reviews. Those would have been quick to end these useless conversations)
Comparing cards in price brackets(what you seem to be doing) is not a valid comparison because prices fluctuate.You seem to be forgetting naming conventions. The 5700's will be superseded by the 5800's and 5900's... The 5700's are the launch offerings. More to come.