Tuesday, July 16th 2019

NVIDIA Won't Launch GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Super

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AleksandarK
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During this year's E3 event, NVIDIA launched a new, refreshed lineup of "Turing" graphics cards, called GeForce RTX Super. They revealed that the "Super" refresh will be present for GeForce RTX 2060, RTX 2070 and RTX 2080, without disclosing whatever they will update GeForce RTX 2080 Ti as well. There were a plethora of rumors speculating CUDA core count and GPU core configurations for 2080 Ti Super model, with some claiming that it will feature a full TU102-400 die that is found on RTX Titan graphics card.

However, according to Anthony Garreffa from TweakTown, during the GeForce RTX Super release event, he asked senior vice president of NVIDIA's PC business, Jeff Fisher, will there be a release of GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Super graphics card. To that question Jeff replied with a simple "would not be", meaning that the current "Super" lineup is complete as it is. Additionally, it is quite reasonable for NVIDIA not to give RTX 2080 Ti a "Super" treatment as that would close the performance gap between GeForce RTX 2080 Ti and RTX Titan graphics cards, possibly compromising the sales of the RTX Titan GPU.
Source: TweakTown

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55 Comments on NVIDIA Won't Launch GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Super

#26
bug
ratirtOf course it is hard to manufacture. Look at the die size of a 2080TI. Nonetheless the improvement can still be found there.
Not really. Have you noticed there no TU-100? That's because, as far as I have read, the TU-102 is at the limit of what can be physically built on 12nm.
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#28
64K
bugNot really. Have you noticed there no TU-100? That's because, as far as I have read, the TU-102 is at the limit of what can be physically built on 12nm.
The TU102 is a massive chip. 754 mm². I believe I've read that that is about the largest die size that can be fabbed right now at TSMC.
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#29
Patriot
64KThe TU102 is a massive chip. 754 mm². I believe I've read that that is about the largest die size that can be fabbed right now at TSMC.
They are also working on a 7nm EUV chip at samsung, they have 0 reason to make their highest end higher and harder to pass with the next gen.
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#30
kings
Seems logical to me.

Why launch a refresh of a card that does not have any type of competition?
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#31
ratirt
kingsSeems logical to me.

Why launch a refresh of a card that does not have any type of competition?
Get more cash from customers? I'm sure there will be people that will buy it. Besides its performance might be better with ray tracing. There are many reasons.
bugNot really. Have you noticed there no TU-100? That's because, as far as I have read, the TU-102 is at the limit of what can be physically built on 12nm.
Are you telling me it is not hard to manufacture? This chip is a giant. The yields are small which also boosts the price (at least that's one of the reasons). This means it is hard to get a working one. Yes i have noticed. NV can boost memory speed. This will be a boost and some application can benefit from this.
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#32
INSTG8R
Vanguard Beta Tester
ratirtGet more cash fro customers? I'm sure there will be people that will buy it. Besides its performance might be better with ray tracing. There are many reasons.
Well they still have the premium priced halo 2080ti so they can’t rock that boat or take attention away from it.
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#33
kings
ratirtGet more cash from customers? I'm sure there will be people that will buy it. Besides its performance might be better with ray tracing. There are many reasons.
It is already the fastest card in the market by large margin. The biggest problem is not the performance, but the price.

I doubt very much that who has not given 1200€ for a 2080Ti so far, would give it now due to 10% more performance.
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#34
Mescalamba
Space between Titan and 2080 Ti is so small that its pointless, beside that endgame high-end is something thats tough to sell even as it is.
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#35
ratirt
INSTG8RWell they still have the premium priced halo 2080ti so they can’t rock that boat or take attention away from it.
Probably, but i still remember Titans situation and 1080TI. What i mean is we never know and then you get surprised.
bugNot really. Have you noticed there no TU-100? That's because, as far as I have read, the TU-102 is at the limit of what can be physically built on 12nm.
Are you telling me it is not hard to manufacture? This chip is a giant. The yields are small which also boosts the price (at least that;s one of the reasons). This means it is hard to get a working one. Yes i have noticed. NV can boost memory speed. This will be a boost and some application can benefit from this.
kingsIt is already the fastest card in the market by large margin. The biggest problem is not the performance, but the price.

I doubt very much that who has not given 1200€ for a 2080Ti so far, would give it now due to 10% more performance.
I would have never payed that much for a card and yet people bought 2080Ti. You can't say that there's absolutely nobody that would buy 2080Ti super. If people were able to buy 2080Ti they would easily buy 2080ti Super. Well if it's released. What's the problem of selling 2080Ti and buying super version? I can't see why not. If you've spent $1200 for 2080Ti and 2080ti Super shows up for the same price I can bet somebody would buy it. I can even tell you more. That person would say it was worth to wait for 2080Ti super :)
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#36
kings
ratirtI would have never payed that much for a card and yet people bought 2080Ti. You can't say that there's absolutely nobody that would buy 2080Ti super. If people were able to buy 2080Ti they would easily buy 2080ti Super. Well if it's released. What's the problem of selling 2080Ti and buying super version? I can't see why not. If you've spent $1200 for 2080Ti and 2080ti Super shows up for the same price I can bet somebody would buy it. I can even tell you more. That person would say it was worth to wait for 2080Ti super :)
I'm not saying that anyone would buy a 2080Ti Super, of course some people would buy, just like they buy the 2080Ti or other Super cards.

The problem here is that unlike the other RTX Super, there is no competition for this card and so Nvidia is not forced to make a refresh.

Whoever wants the best and does not mind paying, will always buy the 2080Ti, be it Super or not! There is no alternative and a supposed 2080Ti Super would not change anything!

The others who find it expensive, would still not buy, be it the normal version or the Super.
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#37
Unregistered
Oh well, guess I'll just stay in my holding pattern for Nvidia 3000 / Intel Xe and see what price / performance is like.
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#38
Prima.Vera
Not sure why this stupid question was even asked to begin with. The RTX 2080 Ti is just a "faulty" RTX GPU that has some cores disabled.
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#39
Fluffmeister
And it still doesn't have any competition!

Cruel times.
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#40
ratirt
kingsI'm not saying that anyone would buy a 2080Ti Super, of course some people would buy, just like they buy the 2080Ti or other Super cards.

The problem here is that unlike the other RTX Super, there is no competition for this card and so Nvidia is not forced to make a refresh.

Whoever wants the best and does not mind paying, will always buy the 2080Ti, be it Super or not! There is no alternative and a supposed 2080Ti Super would not change anything!

The others who find it expensive, would still not buy, be it the normal version or the Super.
I never said it will change. My point was, if it's released, some people will buy it. That is my point of view to previous questions or statements. "NV will not release 2080TI super because no competition in that segment". People don't realize, that if AMD had a competing product for this segment and that prize, it would still be a lot of cash even if the competition would have been there. With or without competition, it doesn't mean the cards would sell better because the price is crap.
I don't think you get it truly. NV doesn't give a damn about the competition. The only thing that matters here is more sales. Ridiculous prise and yet people buy it.
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#41
cyneater
Nvidia are keeping this up there sleeve encase AMD drops something big :P then they will drop it ...

And needs with epeens will be like take my money
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#42
ManofGod
Live OR DieWho wants Nvidia to release an
GeForce RTX 2080 Ti ULTRA

bring back the old Ultra naming and It only seems right seeing the super line up isn't high end.
Ahh, yes add the $399 additional cost Ultra name. :D
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#43
evernessince
Tsukiyomi91with the green camp still dominating the GPU space, releasing the refined 2080Ti is not gonna change much.
I'm sure that's the same logic Intel used before Zen launched. Nvidia is fine to hold back it's cards and keep prices high, that doesn't mean AMD isn't biding it's time. If AMD extended Navi to the high end, it would certainly compete but I have to wonder if AMD is biding it's time to see if it can make Nvidia flinch first, much like they did with the 5000 series pricing.
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#44
bug
evernessinceI'm sure that's the same logic Intel used before Zen launched. Nvidia is fine to hold back it's cards and keep prices high, that doesn't mean AMD isn't biding it's time. If AMD extended Navi to the high end, it would certainly compete but I have to wonder if AMD is biding it's time to see if it can make Nvidia flinch first, much like they did with the 5000 series pricing.
Apples to oranges.
On the CPU front, AMD rehashed Bulldozer and everyone knew something new is incoming. On the GPU front we were told Vega is the next big thing. When that failed, we were told Vega was just a milestone and Navi is going to the the game changer. And now looking at Navi, it's no longer GCN, but it's just slightly above meh. Do you honestly believe AMD has yet another architecture up their sleeves? because I'm pretty sure RDNA will be with us for as long as GCN was. (Keep in mind AMD has lost GPU talent to Intel)
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#45
ManofGod
bugApples to oranges.
On the CPU front, AMD rehashed Bulldozer and everyone knew something new is incoming. On the GPU front we were told Vega is the next big thing. When that failed, we were told Vega was just a milestone and Navi is going to the the game changer. And now looking at Navi, it's no longer GCN, but it's just slightly above meh. Do you honestly believe AMD has yet another architecture up their sleeves? because I'm pretty sure RDNA will be with us for as long as GCN was. (Keep in mind AMD has lost GPU talent to Intel)
Umm, what? Keep in mind, the talent they lost was no talent at all and much of it was marketing, anyways. As for Navi, not sure how you can consider a GPU that can beat a 2070 Super and 2080 is meh. And these are just the "mid range" and as for Vega being the next great thing, the person who sold you on that now works for Intel, so, you where saying?
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#46
bug
ManofGodUmm, what? Keep in mind, the talent they lost was no talent at all and much of it was marketing, anyways. As for Navi, not sure how you can consider a GPU that can beat a 2070 Super and 2080 is meh. And these are just the "mid range" and as for Vega being the next great thing, the person who sold you on that now works for Intel, so, you where saying?
Oh, it beats 2070 Super and 2080 now: www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/28.html
How about they for the same $$$ which I was told is overpriced when Turing launched?
How about, one year after Turing, using 7nm they still gobble more power?
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#47
ManofGod
bugOh, it beats 2070 Super and 2080 now: www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/28.html
How about they for the same $$$ which I was told is overpriced when Turing launched?
How about, one year after Turing, using 7nm they still gobble more power?
Take the time to check out the overclocks on the 5700 XT that are being obtained and you will then stay informed.

Also, you were saying: 5700XT Uber feats
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#48
bug
ManofGodTake the time to check out the overclocks on the 5700 XT that are being obtained and you will then stay informed.
Why? Because you can't overclock Turing?
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#49
ManofGod
bugWhy? Because you can't overclock Turing?
LOL! A card that cost $100 to $300 less, barely uses more than 35 watts additional when overclocked, against an overclocked 2070 and still beats it? Nothing meh about Navi in the real world, only in your mind. :)
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#50
bug
ManofGodLOL! A card that cost $100 to $300 less, barely uses more than 35 watts additional when overclocked, against an overclocked 2070 and still beats it? Nothing meh about Navi in the real world, only in your mind. :)
Sure kid. Whatever you say.
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