Friday, August 23rd 2019
Alleged Leaked Details on Intel Comet Lake-S Platform Require... You Guessed It... A New Platform
Intel's development of their Core architecture in the post-Ryzen world has been slow, with solutions slowly creeping up in core counts with every new CPU release - but much slowly than rival AMD's efforts. Before Intel can capitalize on a new, more scalable and power-efficient architecture, though, it has to deliver performance and core count increases across its product line to stay as relevant as possible against a much revitalized rival. Enter Comet Lake-S: the desktop parts of Intel's new round of consumer CPUs, which will reportedly see an increase in the maximum core count to a 10-core design. This 10-core design, however, comes with an increase in power consumption (up to 135 W), and the need, once again, for beefier power delivery systems in a new, LGA 1200 package (with 9 more pins that the current LGA 1151).
The move to a new socket and the more stringent power requirements give Intel the opportunity to refresh its chipset offerings once again. If everything stays the same (and there's no reason it should change), new Z470 and Z490 chipsets should be some of the higher tier offerings for builders to pair with their motherboards. The new Comet Lake-S CPUs will still be built in the now extremely refined 14 nm process, and allegedly keep the same 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes as current Coffee Lake Refresh offerings. The new CPU offerings from Intel are expected to roll out in Q1 2020.
Sources:
XFastest, via Tom's Hardware
The move to a new socket and the more stringent power requirements give Intel the opportunity to refresh its chipset offerings once again. If everything stays the same (and there's no reason it should change), new Z470 and Z490 chipsets should be some of the higher tier offerings for builders to pair with their motherboards. The new Comet Lake-S CPUs will still be built in the now extremely refined 14 nm process, and allegedly keep the same 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes as current Coffee Lake Refresh offerings. The new CPU offerings from Intel are expected to roll out in Q1 2020.
224 Comments on Alleged Leaked Details on Intel Comet Lake-S Platform Require... You Guessed It... A New Platform
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14nm... AMD is 7nm. PCI-E 3.0, AMD PCI-E 4.0. :)
First off Q4 2021 is Intel release date for their 7nm tech..... (equivalent TSMC 3nm) so leaping over the competition with 7nm and PCIe 5.0 makes sense.
BTW
PCIe 6.0 is ready!
www.techpowerup.com/256634/pci-sig-announces-pcie-6-0-specification
Personally they should go right to PCIe 6.0 my opinion... As PCIe 5.0 is already becoming old specs as they are working on PCIe 7.0 now.....
9900KS nothing touches it!
Let the benchmarks begin!
for now the pcie 4 is making things worse in therms of an additional fan prone to failures, I agree I'd rather have it , but the expensive optane is better
Yet AMD has nothing to go against the 9900KS
Let the Gaming Benchmarks begin!
For instance, at my local Microcenter store a 9900K is nearly $470, plus tax that's nearly $510. To have the processor alone be nearly half the cost of your build is insane.
3900X is selling for $699. In Canada how is that cheap?? The 3950X is even more!!!.... Let's not talk about Threadripper 3....
Don't know what kind of PC Gaming RIG you're trying to build but good advice don't bother! You can't even buy a new Smartphone for the money you're talking about let alone a new gaming RIG PC is 3x the price of the top phones that are out now! iPhone 11, Pixel 4, Note 10, ROG Phone 2 etc etc....
What's the point of running jug fest?
Do yourself a favor and get the 9900KS and have a kick ass CPU that actually performs gaming performance.
9900KS is very soon let the benchmarks begin!
CometLake also going to be very interesting with 10 cores 5GHz even faster than the 9900KS just blows my mind.
It sounds to me like you have a lot of disposable income. Congratulations, many of us don’t. Most of us have to... just get by with what we can afford. If that means that we won’t be experiencing the highest most awesome gaming experience, so be it.
If one has to sacrifice in the food department just to get the best gaming experience, you need to get your priorities straightened out.
2. You can't play PC games on a phone, done.
3. 10 core CometLake is nothing but a nuclear reactor, check my calculation at #175
4. I am pretty sure the 10 core CometLake will be beaten by Intel's own 9900k(s) in terms of gaming, because it will thermal throttle and struggle to reach 5GHz all-core.
1. Like I said before many times before the 3900X is $699.
www.memoryexpress.com/Search/Products?Search=3900X
2. Who said anything about playing PC games on their phone? I pointed out that people are trying to build gaming RIGs the same price as a new top phone.
3. "Nuclear Reactor"? Time for you to go back to school. Want to see a nuclear reactor? Run any AMD 3000 series @5GHz and see what happens.
4. 9900KS already blows away all AMD 3000 series in gaining performance! Cometlake will be even faster!
They're a multibillion dollar corporation. They're not your friend. They don't care about you. Neither does AMD. All they're here to do is take your money.
I'd really like to know exactly why you feel obligated to defend them any time someone thinks that another product might be more suitable for their purposes.
2. Then why are you mentioning ?
3. 135W in a 200mm² package is nuclear, DO THE MATH Genius.
4. 9900ks in gaming will blow 10 core Cometlake out of nowhere, Guaranteed.
2. You can definitely build a gaming PC for less than the top Smart phone even the R5 2600 is good enough for that.
www.amazon.ca/AMD-YD2600BBAFBOX-Processeur-RYZEN5-Socket/dp/B07B41WS48/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=R5+2600&qid=1568721388&sr=8-1
$189
www.amazon.ca/GIGABYTE-B450M-DS3H-Ryzen-Motherboard/dp/B07FWVJSHC/ref=sxin_0_sk-recsbyspec-1-0c04db5d-295a-49fb-bdf0-da5f83b3894e?keywords=B450&pd_rd_i=B07FWVJSHC&pd_rd_r=1e9105db-713d-4351-898c-ffde5f1e8500&pd_rd_w=VkoHA&pd_rd_wg=1DSHh&pf_rd_p=bc0912d9-f3aa-4379-98df-8dfc3bbbb61b&pf_rd_r=7VJVPAFZW6Z0D7445FSF&qid=1568721410
$100
www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Deskt6+p-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=16gb+ddr4+3000&qid=1568721451&s=electronics&sr=1-3
$100
www.amazon.ca/PowerColor-570-AXRX-4GBD5-3DHD-OC/dp/B06ZYRRW9T/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=RX+570&qid=1568721486&s=electronics&sr=1-8
$191
www.amazon.ca/Thermaltake-Certified-Active-Supply-PS-SPD-0600NPCWUS-W/dp/B014W3EMAO/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3567NWH9HTWUA&keywords=600w+power+supply&qid=1568721540&s=electronics&sprefix=600W%2Celectronics%2C248&sr=1-3
$65
Right there is $645 but let's got to the cost of the 3900X
www.amazon.ca/Deepcool-Tesseract-SW-WH-Window-TESSERACT/dp/B017WECPMM/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=Deepcool+case&qid=1568721683&s=electronics&sr=1-8
So right there a $700 Gaming PC that is good enough for most newbs. Is there any part of this build that sucks?
3. As far as Intel those CPUs go up to 90+C on an OC my 12 core does not go past 65 under load (using the same software).
4. You don't know that, let's keep in mind that the FX chips could clock to 4.9 and beyond and the 9590 was a 5GHZ processor. Then we get Ryzen that does not clock as high but has higher IPC and is faster. The only thing Intel has over Ryzen is single core clock speed so Comet Lake may see IPC gains but not 5 GHZ OC with a node shrink. There is also the fact that more and more games are and will be using multi cores. No one on this forum knows any of the official details about Comet lake including you so don't boast about something that is not yet a reality.
We saw what happened from 14nm 6 cores Ringbus -> 14nm 8 cores Ringbus
We can safely expect a portable nuclear reactor for 14nm 10 cores Ringbus . :)
If Intel wants me to buy their stuff from now on, they're going to have to seriously drop their prices. Nearly $500 after-tax for a 9900K is absolutely insane for me. Intel really needs to drop their prices by a decent amount of they're going to continue to have their product be purchased by people who, like me, can get by with slightly less gaming performance while paying a whole lot less. Intel is going to be losing a lot of people in the mid to high segment of the market if they expect people to pay their absolutely insane prices. AMD will have a much better product that will perform within a few percentage points while costing significantly less.
I can say the same thing about an RTX2080Ti which is priced at $1069.99 ($1160.95 after-tax). There is no way in Heaven or Hell that I'm going to pay that damn much, Jen-Hsun Huang is out of his damn mind.
They are getting spanked like a naughty child ATM. Either that, or they just don't care about Desktop performance CPU's as much
as their enterprise hold.
The only thing, is; Epyc is good there as well. Whos knows.....not me for sure...just pure speculation....
I really want to see what Threadripper can do, I don't need that kind of power yet, but the Nerd in me wants to see some benchmarks.....