Display artifacts may be experienced on some 75hz display configurations on Radeon RX 5700 series graphics system configurations

This does not fix the 75Hz/144Hz refresh rate causes high memory clocks even on idle issue. Just tested.

Funny how an extension for Vulkan co-developed by AMD and Nvidia has day 1 support on Nvidia, but not on AMD.

GoldenXFunny how an extension for Vulkan co-developed by AMD and Nvidia has day 1 support on Nvidia, but not on AMD.

Yeah, all them Nvidia hotfixes mean nothing.

CheeseballThis does not fix the 75Hz/144Hz refresh rate causes high memory clocks even on idle issue. Just tested.

Haven't experience that on my Red Devil

GoldenXFunny how an extension for Vulkan co-developed by AMD and Nvidia has day 1 support on Nvidia, but not on AMD.

GPUs are an afterthought for a CPU-first company like AMD. Poor ATI went to the wrong company.

Still unstable for me

XzibitHaven't experience that on my Red Devil

On this driver or 19.9.2/19.9.3?

This is on 19.9.2:


EDIT: This happens on MSI EVOKE OC (I returned this), and two Sapphire reference models (one was defective with random BSODs).

CheeseballOn this driver or 19.9.2/19.9.3?

This is on 19.9.2:


EDIT: This happens on MSI EVOKE OC (I returned this), and two Sapphire reference models (one was defective with random BSODs).

On all of them. Mine sits at 6.0MHz gpu & 200.0MHz mem.

Durvelle27Still unstable for me

Why is your GPU always unstable? You got a dud? Or you are using it wrong? It’s like you are always having stability problem with your Navi. No offense.

dicktracyGPUs are an afterthought for a CPU-first company like AMD. Poor ATI went to the wrong company.

Why must there always be anti-AMD trolls in every AMD related article?

evernessinceWhy must there always be anti-AMD trolls in every AMD related article?

Their drivers still are subpar. Worse yet, they are in Vulkan too.

GoldenXTheir drivers still are subpar. Worse yet, they are in Vulkan too.

Meanwhile Nvidia just released a hotfix to a buggy driver, one of many the last 2 years. I distinctly remember Nvidia's OS bricking driver and their fan stop bug driver. Not to mention the space invader issues with the entire lineup of RTX cards (which still happens frequently as you'll se on the Nvidia forums and reddit). Those cards are DOA.

Looking at all the issues AMD and Nvidia have had over the last 2 years, I certainly wouldn't call Nvidia better. Especially given their antiquated interface, slow driver control panel, and in general lack of features compared to AMD's driver software. I'm not going to say that Navi didn't have it's issues at launch but those do not tip the scale in favor of Nvidia, especially given the sevarity of the issues Nvidia has had.

xkm1948Why is your GPU always unstable? You got a dud? Or you are using it wrong? It’s like you are always having stability problem with your Navi. No offense.

Maybe I’m always having issues because AMD still hasn’t addressed the issues as of yet

I also guess all the other users who have Navi are using them wrong as well. Still many forums of people complain of same issues.

GoldenXTheir drivers still are subpar. Worse yet, they are in Vulkan too.

:confused: compared to what? the early 2000's look of nvidia drivers, I mean have you even seen them? Windows 2k wants it's font back, can't take people seriously on here who say AMD drivers look like crap compared to nvidia, ok, maybe in 2005 they did, but seriously, is that all people have to hold on to? it's been well known that since AMD hasn't been able to comepete at the highest level their driver have actually come on leaps and bounds over nvidia this is fact. I have owned both and dont like feeling like I'm running Win 2K in NV CP in 2019, it's pure garbage

evernessinceMeanwhile Nvidia just released a hotfix to a buggy driver, one of many the last 2 years. I distinctly remember Nvidia's OS bricking driver and their fan stop bug driver. Not to mention the space invader issues with the entire lineup of RTX cards (which still happens frequently as you'll se on the Nvidia forums and reddit). Those cards are DOA.

Looking at all the issues AMD and Nvidia have had over the last 2 years, I certainly wouldn't call Nvidia better. Especially given their antiquated interface, slow driver control panel, and in general lack of features compared to AMD's driver software. I'm not going to say that Navi didn't have it's issues at launch but those do not tip the scale in favor of Nvidia, especially given the sevarity of the issues Nvidia has had.

I'm not praising Nvidia either, but at least their drivers, and Intel ones, work on all compatible APIs on a decent level.

MrPotatoHead:confused: compared to what? the early 2000's look of nvidia drivers, I mean have you even seen them? Windows 2k wants it's font back, can't take people seriously on here who say AMD drivers look like crap compared to nvidia, ok, maybe in 2005 they did, but seriously, is that all people have to hold on to? it's been well known that since AMD hasn't been able to comepete at the highest level their driver have actually come on leaps and bounds over nvidia this is fact. I have owned both and dont like feeling like I'm running Win 2K in NV CP in 2019, it's pure garbage

I'm only criticizing AMD, not defending Nvidia.


So, as someone who has used exclusively AMD for the last 6 years, I can't criticize their software. Shills, shills everywhere.

Durvelle27Maybe I’m always having issues because AMD still hasn’t addressed the issues as of yet

I also guess all the other users who have Navi are using them wrong as well. Still many forums of people complain of same issues.

Really? I haven't seen much complaining of driver issue since 19.9.3. On the contray I see quite a lot of praise of Navi driver improvement as well as promotion to buy Navi from owners themselves

Can you link me to some of those threads you mentioned?

have zero issue with my 5700 XT

evernessinceWhy must there always be anti-AMD trolls in every AMD related article?

What anti-AMD trolls? These are legitimate bugs that AMD needs to address.

I switched to AMD again because I'd like to see how it is on this side of the fence and because I think the RTX 2070 Super is overpriced by $100. My previous AMD card was a PowerColor HD 7870 XT (1536 cores) and while it had crappy drivers at first (early 2012) it slowly got better and I enjoyed it all the way until my ZOTAC GTX 1070 in 2016.

So unless you want to continue shilling for AMD (which is ironically the same thing as calling people out for "shilling for NVIDIA") I suggest you do as much as you can to find out what could be causing these problems, report them to the Catalyst/Radeon software team and help the product improve, which is what I've been doing since I got this card because I don't have time to waste on fanboying for corporate technology companies.

xkm1948Really? I haven't seen much complaining of driver issue since 19.9.3. On the contray I see quite a lot of praise of Navi driver improvement as well as promotion to buy Navi from owners themselves

Can you link me to some of those threads you mentioned?

Compared to the previous 19.7.1 and 19.7.2 drivers of July, yes, the drivers have matured a lot, but they still need improvement, particularly when using Enhanced Sync (which causes game crashing) and certain refresh rates (what I'm experiencing).

There are people on r/Amd reporting issues with 19.10.1 on various cards on the release thread, but still a good improvement since they addressed the 75 Hz flickering. Previous 19.9.3 thread shows some issues. Here's the 19.9.2 one.

Here is one recent example of the 75/144 Hz max memory bug on the AMD forums. Here is one for the RX 590. One for RX 580. This is the biggest thread on the AMD forums for this bug.

A little tidbit: According to a reply by amdmatt (an AMD Technical Support Engineer) in 2016 on the AMD Community, apparently the 144 Hz "bug" was also existing at the time. According to him, it's working as intended which is not acceptable for a R9 390, and certainly not acceptable for the newer RX 5700 XT.

XzibitOn all of them. Mine sits at 6.0MHz gpu & 200.0MHz mem.

May I ask what monitor you have and can you provide EDID details? To reach 144 Hz, do you have to overclock on the monitor or is it a native out-of-the-box setting?

Mr.Mopar392have zero issue with my 5700 XT

Do you have a 75 Hz or 144 Hz monitor? If so, please provide more monitor details.

@Cheeseball wasted words on them.

GoldenX@Cheeseball wasted words on them.

Yep. Just repeat these words:

AMD good, AMD yes
Intel bad, Intel evil
Nvidia bad, Nvidia evil.

Chant it 100 times in your mind every day and your problems will be solved, eventually.

FineWine(tm)

CheeseballWhat anti-AMD trolls? These are legitimate bugs that AMD needs to address.

I switched to AMD again because I'd like to see how it is on this side of the fence and because I think the RTX 2070 Super is overpriced by $100. My previous AMD card was a PowerColor HD 7870 XT (1536 cores) and while it had crappy drivers at first (early 2012) it slowly got better and I enjoyed it all the way until my ZOTAC GTX 1070 in 2016.

So unless you want to continue shilling for AMD (which is ironically the same thing as calling people out for "shilling for NVIDIA") I suggest you do as much as you can to find out what could be causing these problems, report them to the Catalyst/Radeon software team and help the product improve, which is what I've been doing since I got this card because I don't have time to waste on fanboying for corporate technology companies.



Compared to the previous 19.7.1 and 19.7.2 drivers of July, yes, the drivers have matured a lot, but they still need improvement, particularly when using Enhanced Sync (which causes game crashing) and certain refresh rates (what I'm experiencing).

There are people on r/Amd reporting issues with 19.10.1 on various cards on the release thread, but still a good improvement since they addressed the 75 Hz flickering. Previous 19.9.3 thread shows some issues. Here's the 19.9.2 one.

Here is one recent example of the 75/144 Hz max memory bug on the AMD forums. Here is one for the RX 590. One for RX 580. This is the biggest thread on the AMD forums for this bug.

A little tidbit: According to a reply by amdmatt (an AMD Technical Support Engineer) in 2016 on the AMD Community, apparently the 144 Hz "bug" was also existing at the time. According to him, it's working as intended which is not acceptable for a R9 390, and certainly not acceptable for the newer RX 5700 XT.



May I ask what monitor you have and can you provide EDID details? To reach 144 Hz, do you have to overclock on the monitor or is it a native out-of-the-box setting?



Do you have a 75 Hz or 144 Hz monitor? If so, please provide more monitor details.

Please read the thread before commenting. I specifically qouted one of said trolls and made mention of said issues on AMD. My point was never to dismiss any issues on AMD's side. You come in here acting like a "neutral" arbiter but you did not even read all the posts for calling someone out. You have zero standing when you come in here gun's blazing completely ignorant to what was actually said.

My 2nd comment was the following:

"Meanwhile Nvidia just released a hotfix to a buggy driver, one of many the last 2 years. I distinctly remember Nvidia's OS bricking driver and their fan stop bug driver. Not to mention the space invader issues with the entire lineup of RTX cards (which still happens frequently as you'll se on the Nvidia forums and reddit). Those cards are DOA.

Looking at all the issues AMD and Nvidia have had over the last 2 years, I certainly wouldn't call Nvidia better. Especially given their antiquated interface, slow driver control panel, and in general lack of features compared to AMD's driver software. I'm not going to say that Navi didn't have it's issues at launch but those do not tip the scale in favor of Nvidia, especially given the sevarity of the issues Nvidia has had. "

And please, "shilling for AMD"? I'm such a shill I specifically mention these issues on AMD? You are just as bad as the trolls, making hyperbolic statements without reading. If you have to call someone else a shill, it's because you are substituting name calling for an actual logical argument.

Thanks for bringing Nvidia to a discussion about AMD exclusive problems, non-shill.

evernessinceAnd please, "shilling for AMD"?

I forward you to your own quote:

evernessinceWhy must there always be anti-AMD trolls in every AMD related article?

evernessinceYou are just as bad as the trolls, making hyperbolic statements without reading.

"Blah blah blah blah."

Please contribute to the discussion by either sharing your findings to help fix issues related to AMD drivers and stop mentioning NVIDIA-related driver issues as a counter-argument.

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I just tested Enhanced Sync in PUBG with 19.10.1 and haven't had any crashes. This is at 120 Hz (disabled overclock on my monitor), FreeSync on, Anti-Lag off. Stock WattMan settings. Shader Cache did cause hitching at first, but I left it on so it can load whatever it needs in the game (the four big maps in PUBG) and now it seems to be fine. This results in a constant 120 Hz with minimal frame drops (e.g. loading on the plane). Will test VSR to 1440p, although I already have render scale in-game set to 120.

Oh I have almost zero issues with my 270X in Direct3D. The only problem is instabilities with ReLive, but those have been there since release for GCN1.0.
Besides that, OGL and VK are a complete mess, it's not even funny. When even Intel has a better GPU than you, thanks to just a bit of better software, not thanks to better hardware, then you know AMD is doing something wrong.

GoldenXThe only problem is instabilities with ReLive, but those have been there since release for GCN1.0.
Besides that, OGL and VK are a complete mess, it's not even funny. When even Intel has a better GPU than you, thanks to just a bit of better software, not thanks to better hardware, then you know AMD is doing something wrong.

I don't usually install ReLive or GeForce Experience, but I did try remote access and local streaming and they were pretty good.

Doom (2016) seems to run fine with maximum settings using Vulkan with 19.10.1. I haven't tested any other Vulkan/OpenGL games.

Intel's graphics drivers are crap, even now with 26.20. Rolling back to 25.20 seems to work fine for T490S.