Thursday, December 26th 2019
Intel LGA1200 Socket Sketched, Appears Cooler-compatible with LGA115x
Intel's upcoming LGA1200 mainstream desktop socket (aka socket H5), appears to be cooler-compatible with older LGA115x sockets. This would mean any CPU cooler compatible with sockets LGA1156, LGA1155, LGA1150, and LGA1151, should be mechanically compatible with LGA1200. You'd still need to ensure the cooler has enough thermal capacity to cool some of the higher TDP SKUs such as the range-topping Core i9-10900K.
Comparative mechanical drawings of LGA1200 and LGA1151 were posted by momomo_us and eUUUK50, which show the LGA1200 package to have the same dimensions as the older socket. A picture of the land-grid of an LGA1200 package also leaked to the web, showing how Intel utilized empty bits of the fiberglass substrate to cram in the additional 49 pins, without changing the size of the contacts. The LGA1200 socket debuts with Intel's 10th generation Core "Comet Lake" desktop processors and motherboards based on the company's 400-series chipsets. Intel is expected to launch these processors by Q2-2020.
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momomo_us (Twitter)
Comparative mechanical drawings of LGA1200 and LGA1151 were posted by momomo_us and eUUUK50, which show the LGA1200 package to have the same dimensions as the older socket. A picture of the land-grid of an LGA1200 package also leaked to the web, showing how Intel utilized empty bits of the fiberglass substrate to cram in the additional 49 pins, without changing the size of the contacts. The LGA1200 socket debuts with Intel's 10th generation Core "Comet Lake" desktop processors and motherboards based on the company's 400-series chipsets. Intel is expected to launch these processors by Q2-2020.
42 Comments on Intel LGA1200 Socket Sketched, Appears Cooler-compatible with LGA115x
LGA 1200 should have the same 16 PCI-E lanes as LGA 1151 as far as rumors go.
I really would like to get the new processors on my Z390 board. And to buy a new platform when the only new feature is Wifi is a hard sell in my eyes.
Compatible with older....... coolers, classic!
It's better to invest in something that will last for a few years rather than constantly upgrading CPUs. The whole idea of buying a cheap CPU and then upgrading it later is really an edge case, and 1-3 years later there will be more relevant platforms anyway.
AFAIK Intel went all Aluminium from Skylake.
It's strange how most news pieces related to Intel CPUs are infested with idiots and AMD fans.
1. LGA 1151 has been on the scene since 2015 - Intel might have probably run out of options how to use all the pins on it which has finally warranted a new socket. Also, Comet Lake desktop CPUs feature 125W TDP (which means peak power consumption up to freaking 200W) which could warrant a much better power delivery.
2. If you swap your CPUs every year, most likely you're just dumb. There's a minimum performance improvement and a lot of money lost, and also changing a CPU is an error prone process which can render both your CPU and motherboard dead, so it's not advisable to do that all the time. I rocked a Sandy Bridge system up to 2019 and only a few months ago upgraded to a Ryzen 3000 CPU because I don't upgrade if I get less than a 30% single core performance uplift (sadly in some tasks my Sandy Bridge ran almost at the same speed as my current Ryzen 3700X).
The fact you can use older coolers isn't a bad thing, aftermarket coolers many invested in could work even with the larger, highend chips depending on the cooler itself.
People change motherboards anyway for features. Changing heatsinks only makes sense when you drop them.
There's a high chance that an expensive Intel cooler bought a decade ago would work with all consumer Intel platforms released until now (both mainstream and HEDT) and - as it seems likely - will continue to work with next gen mainstream socket (HEDT very unlikely though).
Given that high-end coolers cost very nearly as much as motherboards, this is not something an intelligent person would mock.
BTW: how's your FX doing? Will you ever benefit from the AM4 longevity that you praise so much? :P
Think AMD might move ahead in Single Thread performance for 2020. And then Intel regains the lead in 2021? Either way we've finally got a real battle on our hands and thank goodness. :clap:
Just gonna sit back and watch the fireworks, lol. :laugh:
When the dust settles, probably update my platform either Intel Z590 Tiger Lake or AMD Ryzen 5000 CPUs sometime when ddr5 launches.
Always a blast to check out all the new motherboards for an upcoming chipset series, even when you're NOT buying a new platform. :)
While I like the idea of motherboard support that spans many years, the way stuff works today it's more a fantasy than reality. Even with AM4 where the theoretical support from AMD is there (with a few exceptions), they should advertise the support with huge asterisks. It's really up to the motherboard markers to add and maintain support for CPU types and features in their BIOSes.
Motherboard makers don't really maintain their products for more than 1-2 years, except for occasional bugfixes, which often tend to break more things than they fix. They push out dozens of new motherboards each year, and by the time the new series is out, the old one is not actively maintained any more. Even when they roll out a new BIOS, they don't really test that many hardware configurations at all.
I would much rather want a motherboard that guarantees proper support for at least 3 years, then perhaps we can talk about adding support across multiple CPU generations.