The 5500 XT has 8Gb of VRAM and 5600 XT only 6GB VRAM. Dont you guys think that is simply put crazy? 5600 XT is much faster than any 5500 XT and you can use a 5600 XT to play with higher resolutions but you need more VRAM and 6GB is kinda short in my sense.

ratirtThe 5500 XT has 8Gb of VRAM and 5600 XT only 6GB VRAM. Dont you guys think that is simply put crazy? 5600 XT is much faster than any 5500 XT and you can use a 5600 XT to play with higher resolutions but you need more VRAM and 6GB is kinda short in my sense.

Today the marketing departments are more active than the poor engineers who have no word on the things whatsoever.
Which of course is just wrong because more and more people realise that the marketing departments don't understand a thing and should never be heard.

ARFToday the marketing departments are more active than the poor engineers who have no word on the things whatsoever.
Which of course is just wrong because more and more people realise that the marketing departments don't understand a thing and should never be heard.

They understand how to make profit, sell stuff, they don't care about the logic in their actions. Of course they are active more than ever. It is getting harder and harder to convince a consumer to spend money and convince him that this is what you really need. :)

ratirtThey understand how to make profit, sell stuff, they don't care about the logic in their actions. Of course they are active more than ever. It is getting harder and harder to convince a consumer to spend money and convince him that this is what you really need. :)

But we are polluting the environment, thus cutting the branch that we think we comfortably sit on.
Never push things on people which they don't need.

ARFBut we are polluting the environment, thus cutting the branch that we think we comfortably sit on.
Never push things on people which they don't need.

This is business and with this comes money and if you speak about money, people tend to do worse things than selling 5500 xt with 8gb meanwhile equipping 5600xt with 6gb which may be not enough for certain 2k games. :) It is just silly and kinda funny that this takes place. I remember the days when people were judging graphics performance by the VRAM capacity. How things change :)

ratirtThe 5500 XT has 8Gb of VRAM and 5600 XT only 6GB VRAM. Dont you guys think that is simply put crazy? 5600 XT is much faster than any 5500 XT and you can use a 5600 XT to play with higher resolutions but you need more VRAM and 6GB is kinda short in my sense.

People always make it seem like these corporate decisions they do not understand have some convoluted reasoning behind them, but they don't, it's actually very simple: Basically, every decision a corporation makes has been determined to be the MOST PROFITABLE ONE. We live in a capitalist reality and basically the only thing that determines what products get made or not, what decisions get made is profitability. For example, people always ask "where are our flying cars?" and assume we just don't have them because we're not capable of creating them, when in fact it's because flying cars would necessitate an immense expense in creating the physical infrastructure and the bureaucratic administration of such a system, and because corporations hate cost and try to create as many externalities has possible (externalities are the hidden costs, like how car manufacturers couldn't exist without roads, but do they pay for or build the roads? No, our tax dollars do... 9n a side note, that's how our tax system should work, that the cost for building roads and maintaining them should be collected through a tax on automobile manufacturers as they couldn't exist without them, anyway...)

So when you're wondering about the 8GB of VRAM, maybe Asrock!/AMD had cheaper development costs or volume discounts by using the same memory architecture on the 5700 series as with the 5500...im not saying that's the answer, but I guarantee you AMDs reasoning, like all corporate entities is solely predicated upon profitability.

AnarchoPrimitivPeople always make it seem like these corporate decisions they do not understand have some convoluted reasoning behind them, but they don't, it's actually very simple: Basically, every decision a corporation makes has been determined to be the MOST PROFITABLE ONE. We live in a capitalist reality and basically the only thing that determines what products get made or not, what decisions get made is profitability. For example, people always ask "where are our flying cars?" and assume we just don't have them because we're not capable of creating them, when in fact it's because flying cars would necessitate an immense expense in creating the physical infrastructure and the bureaucratic administration of such a system, and because corporations hate cost and try to create as many externalities has possible (externalities are the hidden costs, like how car manufacturers couldn't exist without roads, but do they pay for or build the roads? No, our tax dollars do... 9n a side note, that's how our tax system should work, that the cost for building roads and maintaining them should be collected through a tax on automobile manufacturers as they couldn't exist without them, anyway...)

So when you're wondering about the 8GB of VRAM, maybe Asrock!/AMD had cheaper development costs or volume discounts by using the same memory architecture on the 5700 series as with the 5500...im not saying that's the answer, but I guarantee you AMDs reasoning, like all corporate entities is solely predicated upon profitability.

Profit. Really? Is that all you got from my posts? You are speaking about obvious things dude. We all know AMD chooses the products and configuration for profit and AMD gets it for sure. From a consumer perspective, like myself, I think it is crazy and not cool at all.
AMD may have done this due to the fact 5700 non-xt is basically 5600 XT. and offering 5600 xt with 8 GB VRAM would be basically same as 5700. I get that but still from a user perspective the purpose of the product (playing 2k games with 6GB VRAM) has been altered.

Do a 5600 XT in this form factor and I'll be interested.

If they price this at $150 to $179.00, then this would be a good challenger for the GTX 1650 (GDDR5 or GDDR6) and GTX 1650 Super.

AnarchoPrimitivPeople always make it seem like these corporate decisions they do not understand have some convoluted reasoning behind them, but they don't, it's actually very simple: Basically, every decision a corporation makes has been determined to be the MOST PROFITABLE ONE.

Nah, it is practically impossible to not make any mistakes. Well, RX 5500 XT with 8GB and RX 5600 XT with 6GB is one of those mistakes and it's very far from being the most profitable one because the BOM for the memory chips is higher than needed. And there is a very strong competition from Nvidia, so just words out of thin air.

IDK... Wouldn't be perhaps there's an issue in the memory controller in an allotment of Navi 10's. So instead of throwing them in they can they just geld the defective and sell it cheaper?:banghead:

now if they released mini itx version for rx 5600 xt that would be real good.

The 5600XT has a cut down memory bus (256 bit down to 192), so it can only support 6GB. Still it has a much wider memory bus than the 5500XT (192 vs 128). The only way they could make the 5600XT have more memory than 6GB would be to double it to 12GB, which would then make the 5700 series have less RAM than the 5600XT (and make the card more expensive). The only way AMD could resolve this practically is to make the 5600XT a 256bit card, but I’m guess it’s just not that simple, or it defeats the ability to salvage Navi 10 dice.

Darmok N JaladThe 5600XT has a cut down memory bus (256 bit down to 192), so it can only support 6GB. Still it has a much wider memory bus than the 5500XT (192 vs 128). The only way they could make the 5600XT have more memory than 6GB would be to double it to 12GB, which would then make the 5700 series have less RAM than the 5600XT (and make the card more expensive). The only way AMD could resolve this practically is to make the 5600XT a 256bit card, but I’m guess it’s just not that simple, or it defeats the ability to salvage Navi 10 dice.

5600 XT with 256-bit memory = 5700.