Friday, April 17th 2020

ASUS Leaks PRIME Z490-P and Z490-A Motherboards for Intel's 10th Gen

ASUS has inadvertently leaked images of their upcoming PRIME Z490-P and Z490-A motherboards, which will accompany the introduction of Intel's 10th Gen "Ice Lake" CPUs. As is usual with Intel, the new generation CPU release will be met with a new chipset launch, of which ASUS apparently has finalized designs: the company has uploaded Z490 pictures on their current Z390 PRIME webpage.

Like with previous ASUS designs, the PRIME Z490-P seems to target budget-conscious users, with a reduced feature set including a no-frills VRM heatsink design (which means the VRM itself isn't a top-tier one) and a pretty basic on-board sound processor. The motherboard still packs 2x M.2 slots and 2x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots, though the rest of the expansion slots are of the 1x kind (4x slots in total). The Z490-A, though, boasts of a more premium construction, with oversized heatsinks (including for at least one of the M.2 slots) and 3x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots alongside 3x Pcie 3.0 1x slots. The sound processing subsystem has also been clearly beefed up in comparison.
ASUS PRIME Z490-P ASUS PRIME Z490-A
Sources: ASUS, via Videocardz
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52 Comments on ASUS Leaks PRIME Z490-P and Z490-A Motherboards for Intel's 10th Gen

#26
efikkan
E-curbiCut outs like the older Apex boards, looks nice. 16VRM chokes? On a TUF board? :eek:

That means the Maximus 12 Apex is gonna be so beyond AMAZING, hoping Asus moves it way up the product stack above the Extreme board, and throws in a kitchen sink load of cool features, and returns the Apex series to EATX form factor.
The burst power draw is going to be substantial…

Too bad the heat sinks are still mostly metal blobs instead of proper fins.

If it were up to me, they should make a no nonsense affordable SSI-EEB motherboard without any RGB-sh*t, Wifi, etc., just loads of expansion, good cooling and a spacious layout.
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#28
Octopuss
What the hell is up with that PS/2 connector? For real?
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#29
windwhirl
OctopussWhat the hell is up with that PS/2 connector? For real?
Why? You wanted two? :laugh:
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#30
Nater
OctopussWhat the hell is up with that PS/2 connector? For real?
I've read that corporate IT likes to completely disable USB-ports for security reasons. That way no users are throwing in USB-sticks and moving data. The Asus Prime line is typically geared towards buisness/workstation use.

I agree though. Seems a waste of space. I'd rather have more USB, more of anything else. There's always that one guy still clinging to his mechanical keyboard from 1987 though.
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#31
Caring1
NaterI've read that corporate IT likes to completely disable USB-ports for security reasons. That way no users are throwing in USB-sticks and moving data. The Asus Prime line is typically geared towards buisness/workstation use.
Off topic and only a thought really, but would a PS/2 to USB adapter allow data transfer for a USB stick, or do they only work for Keyboard or Mouse?
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#32
S4BRE
Caring1Off topic and only a thought really, but would a PS/2 to USB adapter allow data transfer for a USB stick, or do they only work for Keyboard or Mouse?
A PS/2 to USB adapter is only for adapting compatible keyboard and mice. No data transfer like files or anything like that.
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#33
windwhirl
NaterSeems a waste of space. I'd rather have more USB, more of anything else.
How much space does a PS/2 port takes?

And that aside, this is a budget product. It will be a bit barebones..
Caring1Off topic and only a thought really, but would a PS/2 to USB adapter allow data transfer for a USB stick, or do they only work for Keyboard or Mouse?
That seems unlikely, since USB devices have defined class codes in their descriptors.

www.usb.org/defined-class-codes
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#34
brian_i6
NaterI've read that corporate IT likes to completely disable USB-ports for security reasons. That way no users are throwing in USB-sticks and moving data. The Asus Prime line is typically geared towards buisness/workstation use.
For this requirements ASUS can prepare custom BIOS with this functionality. For example, it's may be per-port USB control (on/off). But it's not always possible to implement read/write/load blocking for each USB port. And PS/2 will be problem solution if all USB ports are disabled.
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#35
efikkan
OctopussWhat the hell is up with that PS/2 connector? For real?
PS/2 still offers the lowest latency and so far the only alternative supporting N-key rollover across all operating systems.
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#37
Caring1
OctopussSnake oil.
For those that like to oil their snake ;)
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#38
efikkan
OctopussSnake oil.
Very convincing and insightful argumentation :rolleyes:

USB is just a bus, which can be used for many protocols, including USB HID, which is the default for input devices. Standard USB HID is limited to 6-key rollover, and may have latencies up to 10ms if I remember the spec sheet correctly. Some gaming keyboards have additional protocols which may support N-key rollover and faster polling rates, but these requires drivers in order to work. E.g. CM Masterkeys runs N-key rollover fine in Windows, but was limited 6-key rollover in Ubuntu last time I tried. I haven't found an universal solution to this problem yet. But if you know specific keyboards which are confirmed to be fully supported across platforms, let me know.
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#39
Octopuss
I bet you're the guy who disables Vsync and claims he can see the difference between 220 and 240Hz in CS:GO.
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#40
Prima.Vera
only 1 slot for nvme? also TB port is enabled or those are just the welding pins??
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#41
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Prima.Veraonly 1 slot for nvme? also TB port is enabled or those are just the welding pins??
There's space for two NVMe drives, the second one is under the onboard heatsink...
The TB header is for connecting what I seem to remember is an SPI cable from the PCIe based Thunderbolt add-in card Asus makes. You still need an external DP input as well, at least if you want the display signal over TB.

www.asus.com/Motherboard-Accessories/ThunderboltEX-3/
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#42
E-curbi
gdallskNot sure if anyone's noticed, but there looks to be VRM's on 3 sides now, around the socket on the Z490-A....

That's stupendous.
I noticed. lol good one bro. :)

Three Sides LIve

So maybe Asus is running out of topological real estate for power stages and they will use the north bridge/Apex nameplate area for the new Maximus XII Apex 2-dimm superboard, and fill it up with sweet VRM goodness. To run the 10-core K-suffix CML beast processor.

LGA1200 socket surrounded on three sides by power stages. Woooooo :clap:

Ok, I speculate way too much, just go ahead and say it. :D




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#43
hojnikb
TheLostSwede
Unless they changed something electrically/pin wise, you'd just cut those plastic pins, flash an updated firmware and run 1151v2 cpu in a 1200 board (and probably wise versa) :)
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#44
TheLostSwede
News Editor
hojnikbUnless they changed something electrically/pin wise, you'd just cut those plastic pins, flash an updated firmware and run 1151v2 cpu in a 1200 board (and probably wise versa) :)
Sorry, what? There are an extra 49 pins and Intel has most likely changed quite a few of the pins, especially the ones relating to power, so no, that's a really, really dumb idea and I hope it was a joke.
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#45
windwhirl
hojnikbUnless they changed something electrically/pin wise, you'd just cut those plastic pins, flash an updated firmware and run 1151v2 cpu in a 1200 board (and probably wise versa) :)
This isn't the first time I heard read that here regarding LGA1200. Care to elaborate why you think that'd be possible even if pin arrangement were to be nearly the same?
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#46
E-curbi
windwhirlThis isn't the first time I heard read that here regarding LGA1200. Care to elaborate why you think that'd be possible even if pin arrangement were to be nearly the same?
Requesting elaboration of a statement that could damage valuable components - is like watching a lengthy tutorial of just how they made a bad movie, so bad. Yikes. :eek:
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#47
windwhirl
E-curbiRequesting elaboration of a statement that could damage valuable components - is like watching a lengthy tutorial of just how they made a bad movie, so bad. Yikes. :eek:
Yeah, well, I read someone saying that a while ago and didn't even bother asking, since I thought they were just confused. Now, the idea of mixing sockets and CPUs with different pin counts resurfaces, again talking about LGA 1200 and 1151, and I want to know why, because it feels like some sort of fake news is spreading around.
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#48
E-curbi
windwhirlYeah, well, I read someone saying that a while ago and didn't even bother asking, since I thought they were just confused. Now, the idea of mixing sockets and CPUs with different pin counts resurfaces, again talking about LGA 1200 and 1151, and I want to know why, because it feels like some sort of fake news is spreading around.
I don't believe the two sockets will be compatible, many more changes unlike 1151 vs 1151v2. :)

MSI Z490 Godlike photos just (leaked) showed up. Also, an early and most likely arbitrary price list - just covered in salt. lol :rolleyes:

Here it is, for what it's worth. lol


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#49
windwhirl
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E-curbiI don't believe the two sockets will be compatible, many more changes unlike 1151 vs 1151v2. :)

MSI Z490 Godlike photos just (leaked) showed up. Also, an early and most likely arbitrary price list - just covered in salt. lol :rolleyes:

Here it is, for what it's worth. lol


Yeah, already adding pins should be a sign that there will be no way to make them compatible...

€960? The only godlike thing about it is probably the price lol
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#50
yeeeeman
Intel should have skipped Comet Lake entirely and launch Rocket Lake (Tiger Lake on 14nm) on Z490 platform.
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