Friday, April 24th 2020

AMD "Renoir" Successor is "Cézanne," Powered by "Zen 3" and RDNA2

AMD's 7 nm "Renoir" silicon breathed life into the notebook processor market, by bringing 8-core/16-thread CPU performance into segments Intel reserved for 4-core/8-thread; and beat Intel in the iGPU performance front. 7 nm brought performance-Watt uplifts that spell serious competition for Intel across all notebook form factors, be it 15 W or 45 W. According to _rogame, who has a knack of getting far-out hardware rumors right, AMD has its successor on the drawing-board, and it's codenamed "Cézanne," after the French post-impressionist painter Paul Cézanne.

"Cézanne" could prove vital for AMD's foothold in the premium mobile computing segments as Intel is preparing to launch its 10 nm+ "Tiger Lake" processor soon, with advanced "Willow Cove" CPU cores, and Xe based integrated graphics. AMD plans to tap into its very latest IP. Although its core-count is not known, "Cézanne" will feature CPU cores based on the latest "Zen 3" microarchitecture. The iGPU will receive its biggest performance uplift in 3 generations, with an iGPU based on the cutting-edge RDNA2 graphics architecture that meets DirectX 12 Ultimate logo requirements.
AMD is tapping into a refined 7 nm-class node by TSMC - either N7P or N7+ - for its "Zen 3" and RDNA2 architectures, so it's likely that Cézanne will be based on the same node as the CCDs on "Vermeer." AMD will create 15 W and 45 W product lines based on "Cézanne," so it can fight "Tiger Lake" on both segments. There's no word on launch date, but with Intel planning to debut "Tiger Lake" in mid-2020, and AMD planning to debut "Zen 3" in the 2H-2020, a 2020-21 launch window seems probable.
Source: _rogame (Twitter)
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34 Comments on AMD "Renoir" Successor is "Cézanne," Powered by "Zen 3" and RDNA2

#26
TheLostSwede
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ZakkWyldeOrdered one of these for the girlfriend today. How long do you reckon it will take to materialize?

Would have waited longer for the other 4000 series chips but she had to submit the receipt for a tech bursary from her university.
I thought it said there in stock and it ships next business day, no? Looks like a decent enough laptop for the money.
You better be running a few benchmarks for us ;)
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#28
TheLostSwede
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iOlab501.ro has a review
next.lab501.ro/notebook/amd-ryzen-4000-mobile-part-ii-lenovo-ideapad-5-amd-ryzen-5-4500u-amd-ryzen-7-4700u
Not surprised, he's got an in with Lenovo. Shame it's in Romanian...
The review is lacking in terms of 3D benchmarks though.
It's weird the RAM isn't upgradable, since it's normal DDR4.
At least Lenovo added the extension bracket so the SSD can be upgraded to a 2280 drive, as their default Toshiba drive is a bit meh, although a lot better than the previous generation.
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#29
zlobby
That would explain why HP went with Ryzen 4000 in their ProBook 455. They are saving the CZN for EliteBooks. :slap:
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#30
gamefoo21
Ya know considering Vega 20 is faster than Navi 10... Hell they even admitted using Vega derived cores in the 4000 series APUs were better than using Navi 10...

It's that kind of marketing wank that's annoying.

Next to that... It's interesting to see it'll be monolithic and the APU is getting RTRT and the AI processing stuff.
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#31
watzupken
Competition is great. I was wondering how long will it take AMD to release RDNA for their APUs. With Intel getting aggressive on the GPU front with their Tiger Lake CPU, I think this compelled AMD to act fast by skipping RDNA and going straight to RDNA2 if this rumor is true.
Chrispy_That's great, but none of the Renoir U-series have been made available yet.

They were presumably launched 5 weeks ago along with the H series which is great but the least interesting part of the entire Renoir lineup since the H series will all likely be paired with dGPUs.

The whole point of APUs is the integrated graphics for slim laptops and we've all been waiting since Zen2 launched almost 10 months ago for the same 7nm APUs for power saving and vastly improved performance.

Laptops outsell desktops almost five to one. AMD have screwed up by delaying this long and despite COVID, they chose to lead with their best, newest APU in a model that had no need for tight TDPs, no LPDDR4 to give the APU the crucial extra bandwidth that single-handedly deterimines the performance of the integrated Vega graphics.

"Here's our latest APU designed for LPDDR4-boosted graphics performance at 15W. It's going to be showcased in this hamstrung variant that:
  • isn't 15W
  • doesn't' use our APU's graphics
  • doesn't have LPDDR4
I hope you like seeing how Zen2 performs, even though you've all seen that in thousands of reviews over the last 10 months"

That's how I see the 4800H launch, anyway.
Likewise, I am waiting too. The COVID 19 supply disruption definitely added to the longer product availability.

Anyway, I feel H series are generally paired with dGPUs because they are targeted at people looking for a high performance laptop, whether for work or for gaming. And because of the TDP, they usually come with a beefier chassis and cooling solution which is really convenient to just slap in a dedicated card.
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#32
Chrispy_
TheLostSwedeNot true, Lenovo has one model, with a single SKU...
You can have it next business day even, assuming you live in the US.
www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-500-series/IdeaPad-5-15ARE05/p/88IPS501393
Just bumpin' this thread - didn't someone order one of these with next-day dispatch at the end of last week?
I know it's an all-plastic budget build but even at the low end, I'm curious to see if they're really Renoir*, and if so whether we can get any 3D benches run :D

* - at CES this year most of the 4000 U-series laptops were actually just running 3000U chips as placeholders. I'm hoping that's not what's happening here and that this is the start of real retail availability of what was launched Jan 6th.
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