Wednesday, June 10th 2020

NVIDIA Ampere Cooling Solution Heatsink Pictured, Rumors of Airflow Magic Quashed

Although still a blurry-cam pic, this new picture of three GeForce RTX 3080 "Ampere" graphics card reference heatsinks on a factory-floor reveals exactly how the cooling solution works. The main heat-dissipation component appears to be a vapor chamber base, above which there are four flattened copper heat pipes, which hold the cooler's four aluminium fin arrays together. The first array is directly above the CPU/memory/VRM area, and consists of a dense stack of aluminium fins that make up a cavity for the fan on the obverse side of the graphics card. This fan vents air onto the first heatsink element, and some of its air is guided by the heatsink to two trapezium shaped aluminium fin-stacks that pull heat from the flattened heat pipes, and get airflow from the obverse fan.

The heat pipes make their way to the card's second dense aluminium fin-stack. This fin-stack is as thick as the card itself, as there's no PCB here. This fin-stack is ventilated by the card's second fan, located on the reverse side, which pulls air through this fin-stack and vents upward. We attempted to detail the cooling solution, the card, and other SKU details in an older article. We've also added a picture of a Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 56 Pulse graphics card. This NVIDIA heatsink is essentially like that, but with the second fan on the other side of the card to make it look more complicated than it actually is.
Source: LeeJiangLee (Reddit)
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60 Comments on NVIDIA Ampere Cooling Solution Heatsink Pictured, Rumors of Airflow Magic Quashed

#26
dicktracy
4352 cores on 3080, probably 6k for 3080 Ti or 3090. Beast!
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#27
Steevo
350W....

It's either going to a beast or it's just power hungry
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#28
Dante Uchiha
Judging by the effort to improve cooling, I think Nvidia wants to push the architecture to the limits this time, rather than focusing on efficiency.

That means RDNA2 is probably better than Nvidia expected, and now they're striving not to lose the throne.
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#29
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
CrackongAre those 8mm heatpipes?
Dang this thing must be HOT
Those look like flat heat pipes to me.
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#30
Valantar
ARF350-watt ITX cards ? Good luck with that..
Did I say 350W? You do know that the highest-end cards generally have the biggest PCBs, right? So if the 3080 has a short PCB like this ... it really shouldn't be a challenge to make an ITX-sized 3070 or 3060. Besides, Zotac demonstrated beautifully with their 1080 Ti Mini that you can cool a very power hungry GPU in a very small package if you really want to. The main thing stopping the latest generation from getting similar treatments seems to be the gargantuan die sizes and accompanying challenges of fitting that + VRAM + a VRM of sufficient size onto a board that small.
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#31
Franzen4Real
ValantarThat's debatable - this design does maximize fin area for a two-slot card in terms of having fins "all the way out" rather than having a shroud around them. What is questionable about it on the other hand is (as @RH92's illustration above shows) the middle section of the fin stack having next to no airflow through it. There will be some, as the fins aren't nearly as dense as those directly surrounding the fans, but most of that air will take the quickest possible way out of the fin stack, leaving most of the middle/diagonal fin stacks with near zero flow. Nvm, didn't spot that the fins were entirely closed off. Passive VRM cooling fin stack?

Still, as an SFF enthusiast I have to applaud Nvidia for moving to smaller reference PCBs. Should allow for some pretty nice AIB partner ITX cards, even if this cooler design will be terrible for sandwich style cases.

Edit: see above.
A reference PCB of that size in the xx80 tier is definitely a great benefit for the SFF crowd, as there will be no waiting for one, maybe two AIB's to make a custom pcb. I am looking forward to what EVGA might offer for a compact ITX friendly solution.
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#32
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
Grill of the past



grill of the future
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#33
Valantar
T4C FantasyGrill of the past



grill of the future
That's clearly a much worse design. Anything you put on it will drip fat and BBQ sauce and whatever else is on it down onto the GPU and so on. Can't cook eggs on it either. Poor choice from Nvidia, that.
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#34
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
ValantarThat's clearly a much worse design. Anything you put on it will drip fat and BBQ sauce and whatever else is on it down onto the GPU and so on. Can't cook eggs on it either. Poor choice from Nvidia, that.
i know right, that's why we have to fix their mistakes and use tin foil and curve it into a pan shape to cook our stuff on, maybe revision 2 will fix this issue.
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#35
Vayra86
ARF350-watt ITX cards ? Good luck with that..
Why not? The limitation is PCB size, put a block on it and boom ITX friendly
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#36
ARF
T4C Fantasyi know right, that's why we have to fix their mistakes and use tin foil and curve it into a pan shape to cook our stuff on, maybe revision 2 will fix this issue.
This is exactly how they cooked their meals :)

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#37
Vayra86
ValantarThat's clearly a much worse design. Anything you put on it will drip fat and BBQ sauce and whatever else is on it down onto the GPU and so on. Can't cook eggs on it either. Poor choice from Nvidia, that.
Imagine accidentally placing your meat or egg on the fan though. Speaking of poor choices :)
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#38
RH92
CrackongAre those 8mm heatpipes?
Dang this thing must be HOT
I mean beefy cooling doesn't necessarily mean something runs hot , nowadays more and more peoples care about good acoustic performance as well which can only be achieved with beefy coolers .

By the way those heatpipes look closer to 12mm to me .
btarunrThose look like flat heat pipes to me.
Yep they definitely become flat towards the cooler base / vapor chamber ( assuming there is one ) but on the rest of the cooler they seem to be normal .
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#39
Basard
I thought it was pretty obvious how the air flowed.... It's a cool design, but seems overly complicated.
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#40
Valantar
Vayra86Imagine accidentally placing your meat or egg on the fan though. Speaking of poor choices :)
Fan? That's the built-in egg scrambler. It's a feature. Whips your egg, then distributes it onto the cooking surfaces directly. (Some disassembly required.)
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#41
Vayra86
ValantarFan? That's the built-in egg scrambler. It's a feature. Whips your egg, then distributes it onto the cooking surfaces directly. (Some disassembly required.)
I want two.
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#42
Valantar
Vayra86I want two.
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#43
Xaled
Gsync +150$
RT Cores +150$
New Cooler +150$
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#45
ARF
Mad_foxx1983Sapphire Pulse RTX 3080 TI lol
EVGA Radeon RX 6800 XT Ultra lol ;)
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#46
Redkaliber
What ya all smokin these days? I just ran out of herb and I can tell ya this is not gonna be the new rtx cooler.

Whats sapphire got to do with Nvidia? Dont they only make red camp cards?
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#47
Valantar
RedkaliberWhat ya all smokin these days? I just ran out of herb and I can tell ya this is not gonna be the new rtx cooler.

Whats sapphire got to do with Nvidia? Dont they only make red camp cards?
I'm reasonably sure that was supposed to be a joke referring to this design being somewhat similar to previous Sapphire GPU cooler designs.
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#48
ARF
RedkaliberWhats sapphire got to do with Nvidia? Dont they only make red camp cards?
ASRock, Sapphire and XFX are exclusive partners with AMD Radeon, so, yes, Radeon only.
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#49
ZoneDymo
"Nvidia is not happy with the leak and started an investigation"

And more gets leaked hahaha
ValantarI'm reasonably sure that was supposed to be a joke referring to this design being somewhat similar to previous Sapphire GPU cooler designs.
Its not a joke, its to help illustrated how this design functions, how its pretty much exactly that sapphire card but with one of the fans instead on the other side.
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#50
Valantar
ZoneDymoIts not a joke, its to help illustrated how this design functions, how its pretty much exactly that sapphire card but with one of the fans instead on the other side.
... You didn't actually read the last few posts in the thread, did you? I was referring to this:
Mad_foxx1983Sapphire Pulse RTX 3080 TI lol
I very sincerely doubt that was meant as an illustration of the design principles of this hsf. I might of course be wrong, but I do believe my reading of that post is a bit more likely than yours, @ZoneDymo.

Also, if you're asking for pedantry, you'll get it: that isn't the only difference; the fan on the opposite side is also flipped, reversing airflow. As such this is more of an evolution of the sapphire-style design than a new take on the same style (no idea if it's an evolution to the better of course...). The Sapphire designs also use horizontal rather than vertical fins, which makes a lot more sense for the part of the heatsink that is obstructed by the PCB.
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