Thursday, June 11th 2020
AMD Ryzen 5 4400G Desktop "Renoir" 6-core APU Put Through 3DMark11
It looks like AMD's Ryzen 4000G line of socket AM4 desktop APUs based on the 8-core 7 nm "Renoir" silicon will be a lot wider than just a couple of SKUs. We've seen plenty of material on the top Ryzen 7 4700G part that maxes out everything on the silicon, along with increased power limits and clock speeds. It looks like the Ryzen 5 4000G series will consist of 6-core/12-thread parts. One such chip, the Ryzen 5 4400G surfaced on the 3DMark database, as dug up by TUM_APISAK. They earlier brought you a 3DMark score comparison between the 4400G, the top 4700G, and the entry-level 4200G.
The Ryzen 5 4400G (possible OPN: 100-000000143) appears to be a 6-core/12-thread part based on "Renoir," with the CPU clocked at 3.70 GHz base and possibly 4.30 GHz boost. The "Vega" NGCU count of the iGPU is unknown, but its engine clock is set at 1.90 GHz (max). With the "P" (performance) preset, the 4400G allegedly scores 4395 points in the 3DMark 11 graphics test suite (graphics score); with 10241 points physics score.
Source:
TUM_APISAK (Twitter)
The Ryzen 5 4400G (possible OPN: 100-000000143) appears to be a 6-core/12-thread part based on "Renoir," with the CPU clocked at 3.70 GHz base and possibly 4.30 GHz boost. The "Vega" NGCU count of the iGPU is unknown, but its engine clock is set at 1.90 GHz (max). With the "P" (performance) preset, the 4400G allegedly scores 4395 points in the 3DMark 11 graphics test suite (graphics score); with 10241 points physics score.
45 Comments on AMD Ryzen 5 4400G Desktop "Renoir" 6-core APU Put Through 3DMark11
zero progress for 2.5 years
I miss the days when they had to concentrate on actually releasing something in the lower end side of things. Remember GTX x50/Ti & HD x790 for example. But here we are, people are selling used 1060 3GB @150$ !!!
And something is whispering in my head about this pricey Renoir they're about to drop. I'd rather see an early 2021 launch than a hella exploit over the market with these 'COVID consequences' D riding.
ryzen vega is vega
3200g is 8CU/1250Mhz and 2400G is 11 CU/1400Mhz .
Based on Ryzen 4000 and forther APU model leaks:
4200G is 384SP/6CU/1900Mhz, 4400G is Vega 7 448SP/7CU/1900Mhz and 4700G is Vega 8 512SP/8 CU/2100Mhz.
iGPU is considerably faster (1200Mhz of 2400G vs. 1900Mhz of 4400G) but number of CUs are also considerably lower (11CU of 2400G vs 7CU of 4400G).
Looks like AMD decided to keep GPU performance coherent among AM4 APUs so far while introducing better CPU each time.
Since Ryzen 5000 APU (Cezanne) is also supposed to come with Vega based iGPU, according to leaks, we will wait for Ryzen 6000 APU for much better integrated graphics performance.
Ryzen 6000 Rembrandt APU will use RDNA/2 based iGPU. But these are all leaks so far.
It has to be Zen 3 CPU cores with Navi (1st or 2nd generation?) GPU cores.
www.techradar.com/news/amd-cezanne-leak-hints-at-next-gen-laptop-cpus-with-rdna-2-graphics-that-go-for-intels-jugular
" The iGPU appears to come with eight Vega Compute Units (CUs) clocked at 2,100 MHz. Although not confirmed yet, this configuration would be a step backward in terms of CUs. "
Key words here being appears and not confirmed. I have no doubt that AMD could release a killer APU (i.e. PS4 Pro) and slay anything Intel pushes. Regardless, you are correct in saying the value isn't there compared to purchasing cheaper CPU coupled with a second hand dGPU, however while people do "game" on iGPUs they do not buy APU to exclusively game on. Think Intel's NUC or System-on-a-stick; Something's gotta drive the pixels, especially with today's media rich websites.
3 SKUs? 4700G, 4400G and 4200G? That's certainly 50% more than 2, it may qualify as "a lot wider" :roll:
So the 4200G will have 6CUs, which is 25% lower, but the clocks will be far higher.
And the 4400G will have 7CUs.
But yes, they're not exactly generational leaps - probably due to the memory bandwidth problem when using shared system memory for graphics as well. Renoir might have faster memory support, but it also has 6 or 8 CPU cores now. DDR5 in a couple of years will help this level of APU, so hopefully we will see 12-16CUs in a future DDR5 APU. Otherwise, on-package memory is needed (IMO a single GDDR6 die would be more than enough to feed even 20CUs) but this is only useful for area-constrained devices - a discrete GPU is a better option otherwise.
Pricing is key, and part of the reason the CU count is low is to save die space so AMD can make a lot, so hopefully AMD have some room to be competitive (with themselves!).
We won't see decent APU performance before DDR5.
www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-rx-460-strix-oc/
Almost 1000 shaders, 4GB for ~$140, est. 3% inflation per year (very conservative) and that's 12% more. Cards in that price range are this www.newegg.ca/asus-geforce-gt-1030-ph-gt1030-o2g/p/N82E16814126209 (384 shaders)
I fix up pc's as a hobby for freinds and family, many are/were using systems with radeon 6850 and earlier gen and equiv nvidia cards. I remember updating more than a few to windows 10 and having no drivers or driver issues. Try and find a current (within 1 year) gpu in the $100 ish range now.