ARFSo the problem is that AMD forgets to update its products and pricings.

The problem is that AMD rushes to feel overconfident when things look to go the right way for them.

But How Does It Play Crysis??

Actually I am really excited to see where this goes.

Intel getting into the graphics market should be good for everyone.

I want to see them offer competitive discrete cards fighting against AMD and NVIDIA, so for the 1st time in my memory we actually have 3 viable major manufacturers in that space, and I really hope all the tech they develop spreads across all their offerings, so we might possibly see some new multi-layered Foveros chips embedding this kind of tech in super small, and lower cooling requirement systems.

If my new home-brew set-top box could look much more like my old Blu-ray player instead of a big fat stereo receiver, because it didn't need a massive power supply or cooling system, but also play Battlefield or Crysis, all while looking perfectly at home under my TV, I would be a very happy camper.

Not to mention if graphics power like that becomes less of a limiting factor for gaming with PCs and laptops, think of what that will do for the growth of PC gaming and VR in general.

john_The problem is that AMD rushes to feel overconfident when things look to go the right way for them.

Sounds, ironically, a bit like the blue giant... :P

AnarchoPrimitivYou do know that the new iGPUs based on Vega have better performance with less CUs, right? CU count in and of itself means nothing, it only matters as it relates to performance, and the new Vega iGPU has better performance, so as long as that's the case, what does it matter how many CUs it has?

The Vega in the Ryzen 3xxxG vs the 4000G are essentially the same. The key difference being that the 7nm shrink gave it the ability to clock the GPU higher, thus, allowing the Renoir Vega to keep up despite having lesser CUs.

If you look carefully at the video, you may notice, that he has only 55° Field of View set. Default setting is 70°, while many set it to 90°. Such small FOV decreases power requirements and increases FPS.
Look here, at 0:18 :
And other interesting video to compare previous with:

Robin SeinaIf you look carefully at the video, you may notice, that he has only 55° Field of View set. Default setting is 70°, while many set it to 90°. Such small FOV decreases power requirements and increases FPS.
Look here, at 0:18 :

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1273352056208850944

And other interesting video to compare previous with:

Resolution scaling at 60% (thats way below 1080p) with most setting in low

Good luck getting 30fps at native 1080p (100% scalling) with high preset setting.

Ryzen 7 4800U 8C/16T vs Core i7-1165G7 4C/8T
Ryzen 7 4700U 8C/8T vs Core i7-1165G7 4C/8T





wccftech.com/intel-tiger-lake-core-i7-1165g7-on-par-with-amd-renoir-ryzen-7-4700u-cpu-3dmark-time-spy/

ARFRyzen 7 4800U 8C/16T vs Core i7-1165G7 4C/8T
Ryzen 7 4700U 8C/8T vs Core i7-1165G7 4C/8T





wccftech.com/intel-tiger-lake-core-i7-1165g7-on-par-with-amd-renoir-ryzen-7-4700u-cpu-3dmark-time-spy/

Might be true, however original tweet by Rogame does NOT specify TDP set for Tiger Lake, only that TDP for Ryzen was set to 25W. It does not even show AMD RAM speed, on which results depend. Also, tiger lake has half as much graphic cores (768 vs. 512). Until we test of on the market available commercial line product, any results should be taken with grain of salt.

Robin SeinaMight be true, however original tweet by Rogame does NOT specify TDP set for Tiger Lake, only that TDP for Ryzen was set to 25W. It does not even show AMD RAM speed, on which results depend. Also, tiger lake has half as much graphic cores (768 vs. 512). Until we test of on the market available commercial line product, any results should be taken with grain of salt.

AMD RAM frequency is DDR4-3200.



But I find it highly unlikely that the Ryzens-U run at anything different than the normal 15-watt TDP..

ARFAMD RAM frequency is DDR4-3200.



But I find it highly unlikely that the Ryzens-U run at anything different than the normal 15-watt TDP..

Some manufactures allow to set TDP in BIOS, others allow the setting after unlocking the bios, but not for general customers.