Monday, October 19th 2020

Leaked AMD Ryzen 5000 Mobile Lineup Shows Significant Performance Boosts

AMD has attempted to fix their mobile processor naming situation with the launch of Ryzen 5000 desktop processors, by skipping Ryzen 4000 on desktop AMD has brought their mobile and desktop processor generations under the one naming scheme. However, it seems this naming scheme simplification hasn't gone as well as expected with leaked specifications for the upcoming Ryzen 5000 mobile series showing a mix of Zen 2 and Zen 3 processors. The leaked processors include the AMD Ryzen 3 5300U (Zen 2), Ryzen 3 5400U (Zen 3), Ryzen 5 5500U (Zen 2), Ryzen 5 5600U (Zen 3), Ryzen 7 5700U (Zen 2), and the Ryzen 7 5800U (Zen 3).

These new processors will maintain the core counts of their Ryzen 4000 predecessors while gaining a modest bump to base and boost speeds. These clock speed improvements will be accompanied by the claimed 19% IPC uplift on the Zen 3 based processors. The processors will also benefit from increased Vega iGPU cores and iGPU clock speed boosts. This combination should offer significantly improved performance over previous generation Ryzen 4000 mobile processors which already offered strong performance against Intel's offerings. AMD is expected to officially announce these processors at an event in January with prices slightly above previous generations.
Full Rumored Specifications

AMD Ryzen 3 5300U
  • Zen 2 Lucienne
  • 4 cores / 8 threads
  • 2.6 GHz base (100 MHz decrease)
  • 3.85 GHz boost (150 MHz increase)
  • 6 CU @ 1.5 GHz (+1 CU, 100 MHz increase)
  • 4 MB L3 cache
  • 10-25 W cTDP
AMD Ryzen 3 5400U
  • Zen 3 Cezanne
  • 4 cores / 8 threads
  • 2.6 GHz base
  • 4.0 GHz boost
  • 6 CU @ 1.6 GHz
  • 8 MB L3 cache
  • 10-25 W cTDP
AMD Ryzen 5 5500U
  • Zen 2 Lucienne
  • 6 cores / 12 threads
  • 2.1 GHz base (200 MHz increase)
  • 4.0 GHz boost
  • 7 CU @ 1.8 GHz (+1 CU, 300 MHz increase)
  • 8 MB L3 cache
  • 10-25 W cTDP
AMD Ryzen 5 5600U
  • Zen 3 Cezanne
  • 6 cores / 12 threads
  • 2.3 GHz base (200 MHz increase)
  • 4.2 GHz boost (200 MHz increase)
  • 7 CU @ 1.8 GHz (+1 CU, 300 MHz increase)
  • 12 MB L3 cache (4 MB increase)
  • 10-25 W cTDP
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
  • Zen 2 Lucienne
  • 8 cores / 16 threads
  • 1.8 GHz base (200 MHz increase)
  • 4.3 GHz boost (200 MHz increase)
  • 8 CU @ 1.9 GHz (+1 CU, 300 MHz increase)
  • 8 MB L3 cache
  • 10-25 W cTDP
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
  • Zen 3 Cezanne
  • 8 cores / 16 threads
  • 2.0 GHz base (200 MHz increase)
  • 4.4 GHz boost (200 MHz increase)
  • 8 CU @ 2.0 GHz (250 MHz increase)
  • 16 MB L3 cache (8 MB increase)
  • 10-25 W cTDP
Source: @ExecuFix
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32 Comments on Leaked AMD Ryzen 5000 Mobile Lineup Shows Significant Performance Boosts

#26
Totally
No AMD hasn't beat Intel not even close victory doesn't lay with performance it lays with adoption, AMD is lacking far behind.
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#27
DeathtoGnomes
ValantarWhat? If the chips are Zen 2, they are Zen 2, and have zero Zen 3 architecture in them, as they would by then no longer be Zen 2. That would need to be some sort of "Zen 2+" or some such, which would be an utter waste of money to develop given that they already have the faster and more efficient Zen 3 done. Also, "Zen2 is better than originally thought"? We have had Zen 2 chips on the market for a year now. It's a well known and widely documented architecture, both on desktop and mobile. We know how good it is.
I could agree with zen2+ naming and still be part of the 5000 series.
TotallyNo AMD hasn't beat Intel not even close victory doesn't lay with performance it lays with adoption, AMD is lacking far behind.
thats a pretty broad statement, be clear here.
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#28
Valantar
DeathtoGnomesI could agree with zen2+ naming and still be part of the 5000 series.
Sure, except that we have zero reason to expect such an architecture to exist - after all, it's not like you can just move over new parts to an old arch as if they were legos. There would be a time-consuming and expensive design process to integrate the two, which again, would be an utter waste of money since the faster Zen 3 already exists and from what we know has zero drawbacks in terms of power draw, production costs, etc.

I'm willing to bet this is just a way for them to keep selling Renoir, which is at this point well known and optimized, likely at a much better stepping than initially, which might justify new naming (though very much not a shuffled naming with Zen 3 parts). I'd be very surprised if this turned out to be actually new silicon.
DeathtoGnomesthats a pretty broad statement, be clear here.
The poll in the news post asks the rather inane question "Has AMD beaten Intel in the mobile processor market?" which I believe that post is responding to.
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#29
Mouth of Sauron
theGryphonWho would wanna use 5700U over 5600U?? :kookoo:
Probably price-dependant. Zen2 is still a beast, so if the price is right... It's weird nomenclature, I agree.
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#30
Valantar
Mouth of SauronProbably price-dependant. Zen2 is still a beast, so if the price is right... It's weird nomenclature, I agree.
Wouldn't it be even weirder if the 5700U was cheaper than the 5600U?

I really don't mind them making a Zen 2 refresh series for mobile, but please don't name them the same as the Zen 3 parts. That's just lunacy.
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#31
EasyListening
Similarly to the naming of 5700 and 5700XT, we've got desktop Ryzen in three flavors, named without a suffix, "X", and "XT". Mobile Ryzen 5000 could have been named simlarly, with the Zen 2 variants given numeric designations with no suffixes, and Zen 3 variants using the same numbers but with the "XT" suffix. I'm predicting that there will eventually be X and XT variants of Ryzen 5000, probably when AMD is done milking Zen2 and moves the entire mobile lineup beyond Zen 3 to 3+ or Zen 4 or whatever. Personally, I don't get triggered by naming schemes, just performance.
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#32
londiste
EasyListeningSimilarly to the naming of 5700 and 5700XT, we've got desktop Ryzen in three flavors, named without a suffix, "X", and "XT". Mobile Ryzen 5000 could have been named simlarly, with the Zen 2 variants given numeric designations with no suffixes, and Zen 3 variants using the same numbers but with the "XT" suffix. I'm predicting that there will eventually be X and XT variants of Ryzen 5000, probably when AMD is done milking Zen2 and moves the entire mobile lineup beyond Zen 3 to 3+ or Zen 4 or whatever. Personally, I don't get triggered by naming schemes, just performance.
5700 and 5700XT are both Navi. Ryzen without suffix, X and XT are all Matisse and Zen2.
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