TheLostSwedeAMD's focus today is not on CPU or GPUs, it's on console SoCs. Want to buy a Ryzen 4000 mobile CPU from AMD today? If you're not Lenovo, HP, Dell or Asus, good luck, no stock as their allocation at TSMC is now being used up to make enough chips for Sony and Microsoft.

randompeepKeep it 4:1, keep it real. Do you think they're caring about people bragging on AMD 'fantastic' prices ? If Ryzen 3000 sells like pancakes currently at +10-20% over MSRP, how the GPU higher-tier marketing strategy would fail ?
We're talking about the next-gen, perf/$ can't be judged just yet. After AIB's get in stores, we could roll it up and down some more time. Till then both nvidia and AMD plan their position for these cheeky high-end and the supposed second hand market killer lineup @250-450$

okbuddyplus only 3 video ports, 3080 got five

TheLostSwedeLooks like four to me.

RedelZaVednoYes, "just" because it has DLSS and better ray tracing, worth paying 30 bucks more imho. I expected much more better value from AMD:(

RedelZaVednoRyzen 3000 is much better value than intel, especially if you take the need for expensive Z490 MB and decent AMD cooler into account. How is paying $579 for xx70 GPU OK with ppl? I bought most of AMD mid to high GPUs simply because they were better value even when they were room heaters. I can't see value in $579 GPU anymore. It saddens me but I admit that if NVidia launches 3070TI with 12 or 16 gigs of ram for $599 I'll go with green option. Yes, "just" because it has DLSS and better ray tracing, worth paying 30 bucks more imho. I expected much more better value from AMD:(

okbuddy72/80=0.9

999-649 >>>>> 0.9

10% bump you need $350


plus only 3 video ports, 3080 got five

Vayra86Doubtful. We've already seen how tables can turn when it comes to these things. Intel's mindshare is quickly waning for example. It took Ryzen a few generations, you can expect similar with RDNA2. That's why I'm saying, you're probably going to be right, but don't mistake that for a lack of change in perspective. People need to ease into these things, and AMD has a lot of wiggle room here in terms of price that Nvidia really doesn't have. They will definitely be eating further into their margin than AMD this time around.

But the bigger issue is the mid-term to long-term market for Nvidia. Ampere was supposed to be their big overhaul right, I mean, this is FINALLY the Volta we always drooled over, really, all RT capable and everything with top 4K perf. So what's next for NV? How do you scale up a 320W board that is already out of balance in multiple ways? I mean its great they have GDDR6X. But they can't get a wider bus for it really without cutting on core power budget. What's their step up now?

AMD however is now in a position where Nvidia was during Pascal. Memory efficiency that is out of reach for its competitor. Boost that leaves a major gap with competitor. Feature parity with current day hardware and software. AMD can leverage technology that Nvidia simply doesn't have, nor can access easily. They've got a design win here and its ten times more impressive than Nvidia repurposing their cores for RT.

We find ourselves now, immediately after this presentation... considering what magic rabbit Huang has left in the hat. Because he needs one badly.

A hidden motivator though might the realization for customers that AMD Is also in the consoles for a while now. That is why the feature parity bit matters so much. If the GPUs can do the same things, show the same picture, why would you not switch? There is familiarity with both brands after all.

Fingers crossed now for no driver oopsies.

nguyenAMD really expect to sell those GPU at those prices ?

RedelZaVednoRyzen 3000 is much better value than intel, especially if you take the need for expensive Z490 MB and decent AMD cooler into account. How is paying $579 for xx70 GPU OK with ppl? I bought most of AMD mid to high GPUs simply because they were better value even when they were room heaters. I can't see value in $579 GPU anymore. It saddens me but I admit that if NVidia launches 3070TI with 12 or 16 gigs of ram for $599 I'll go with green option. Yes, "just" because it has DLSS and better ray tracing worth paying 30 bucks more :(

RedelZaVednoAll Nvidia has to do is to transfer Ampere to TSMC 7nm euv process because going with Samsung 8nm (aka 10nm) was a shitshow. They'll probably do that in the next 18 months imo.

krukThe clocks on the 6900 XT are suspiciously low, which suggests that we might be able to get a 6950 XT in the future as the production matures. This means that they can sell the new SKU at $999 and reduce the 6900 XT price to match the 3080 Ti ...

CheeseballThey are not going to release a RTX 3070 Ti at $599. That would be a stupid business decision when the 3070 is at $499 and the 3080 is at $699. Thats only a $100 difference between each tier and is still at the bottom high-performance segment which is not exactly where most of the money comes in.

RTX 2060 Super = $399
RTX 2070 Super = $599

RTX 2070 non-Super came out the year prior for the same $599 price (someone correct me if I'm wrong about this), so this wouldn't count

KhonjelProduction is already mature though. AMD skipped 5nm and all the ensuing supply war and stayed with mature (as of now) 7nm. I think opposite will happen. AMD keeps the best of the best Navi 21 dies for RX 6900 XT while relegating slow/not-so-best dies to RX 6900 to fight off RTX 3080 Ti.

TheLostSwedeAMD's focus today is not on CPU or GPUs, it's on console SoCs. Want to buy a Ryzen 4000 mobile CPU from AMD today? If you're not Lenovo, HP, Dell or Asus, good luck, no stock as their allocation at TSMC is now being used up to make enough chips for Sony and Microsoft.

xkm1948Nice 6900. Finally a top of the line since Fury days!

RedelZaVednoAll Nvidia has to do is to transfer Ampere to TSMC 7nm euv process because going with Samsung 8nm (aka 10nm) was a shitshow. They'll probably do that in the next 18 months imo.

ratirtNV did it to cut price so if you want 7nm EUV prepare to pay more for any card NV has presented so far transfered to 7nm EUV.

BoboOOZJust to point out the obvious, the number of wafers reauired for console APUs is huge, it' more than everything else they do (CPU or GPU alike).

nguyenRasterizaton performance are good but AMD really expect to sell those GPU at those prices ? or perhaps they can't price them any lower ?

RedelZaVednoI agree on that, Ngreedia never gives anything for free unless it has to. But AMD has become the same greedy profit margin rising corp as Intel and NV. I'm seriously considering boycotting them both by buying GPUs only on 2nd hand market.

lynx29i could care less about ray tracing. doesn't impress me at all in the games I have seen it in. i would rather turn it off and gain an extra 30-50 frames for the smoothness of high refresh gaming.