Monday, December 28th 2020

ASUS Lists RTX 3080 Ti 20 GB, RTX 3060 12 GB Graphics Cards

ASUS on its support website has inadvertently confirmed some of the rumors and speculations of recent months - ever since the official release of AMD's RX 6000-series, really. Not to be outdone by AMD, NVIDIA apparently sees the need to fill the gap between its RTX 3080 10 GB graphics card at a virtual $699 and its top-of-the-line RTX 3090 graphics card at #$1,499 - better to compete with the RX 6900 at (an also virtual) $999. Thus ASUS listed a ROG-STRIX-RTX3080TI-O20G-GAMING and a ROG-STRIX-RTX3080TI-20G-GAMING, alongside some... interesting ROG-STRIX-RTX3060-O12G-GAMING and ROG-STRIX-RTX3060-12G-GAMING.

Thus it is seemingly confirmed that NVIDIA dropped official plans to offer the RTX 3080 in 20 GB GDDR6X flavor, and is instead packing its RTX 3080 Ti with that amount of graphics memory - that should serve to make the model even more attractive to users who were still trying to get an RTX 3080 series, as the drama surrounding that cards' 10 GB of VRAM is well-known across the tech industry and consumers. However, the RTX 3060 being listed in a 12 GB GDDR6 version (with a certain 6 GB version being on its way as well) really is puzzling; that graphics card, which is expected to pack only 3840 CUDA cores in its GA106 chip, will run out of shading and RT power long before that VRAM pool is exhausted. NVIDIA's chip structure is becoming ever more confusing in this 30-series, at least. The announcement for the new graphics cards is expected to take place come January 12th.
Source: 9550pro @ Twitter
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55 Comments on ASUS Lists RTX 3080 Ti 20 GB, RTX 3060 12 GB Graphics Cards

#26
Max(IT)
SandboExactly and many simply didn't know.
In Japan, even on the Nvidia's website, the listed price for 3080 before tax is 968 USD.
www.nvidia.com/ja-jp/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/?nvid=nv-int-csfg-67760#cid=_nv-int-csfg_ja-jp
Here in Europe the 3080 is around $890 for the FE, which is absolutely impossible to buy. Most other models are above $1100 VAT included.
And this is according to Nvidia official website, so we are not speaking about scalpers.

On Amazon you could easily found scalpers selling a 3070 for the equivalent of $1200, and a 3080 for $1400. And they sold out in MINUTES, literally.

So please stop speaking about MSRP, since it was Nvidia (and AMD) trolling customers.
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#27
mdbrotha03
MetroidTI usually keeps the bitmemory, I hope the same happens with 3070ti, reason 3060ti is much more attractive than the 3070, bit memory 256 and at $399.
The bus size of the memory correlates with the amount of memory present. You can't have 320bit memory with 16GB without splitting the memory up. Similar to GTX 970 issue

That is why you see the 10GB card with 320bit, 16GB and 8 with 256bit, 11GB with 352bit, 12GB and 24GB with 384bit and 6GB with 192bit.
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#28
Metroid
mdbrotha03The bus size of the memory correlates with the amount of memory present. You can't have 320bit memory with 16GB without splitting the memory up. Similar to GTX 970 issue

That is why you see the 10GB card with 320bit, 16GB and 8 with 256bit, 11GB with 352bit, 12GB and 24GB with 384bit and 6GB with 192bit.
yeah, there are rumours saying 3070ti with 320bit 10gb, same as 3080 and a super 3080 384bit 20gb.
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#29
mdbrotha03
Metroidyeah, there are rumours saying 3070ti with 320bit 10gb, same as 3080 and a super 3080 384bit 20gb.
If there is a 20 GB card it will be 320bit
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#30
Metroid
mdbrotha03If there is a 20 GB card it will be 320bit
so the 3080 super will have to be 8 12 16 or 24 right? because the 3090 is 24gb. So the 3080 super will likely be 12gb or 16gb 384 bit right?
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#31
mdbrotha03
Metroidso the 3080 super will have to be 8 12 16 or 24 right? because the 3090 is 24gb. So the 3080 super will likely be 12gb or 16gb 384 bit right?
if it is still 320bit they would make a 20 GB card. If it is 384 bit, they would probably make a 12GB card so as not to eat into 3090's 24GB
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#32
Metroid
mdbrotha03if it is still 320bit they would make a 20 GB card. If it is 384 bit, they would probably make a 12GB card.
That is what I think too, thanks.
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#33
quakebox
I hope these cards launch don't get ruined by scalpers buying all stock with bots and selling them on eBay to make a quick buck on expense of real consumers.
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#34
Max(IT)
quakeboxI hope these cards launch don't get ruined by scalpers buying all stock with bots and selling them on eBay to make a quick buck on expense of real consumers.
The scalping business is an issue far more extended than we thought.

MSI scalping

most probably every single vendor is doing that with controlled third party.
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#35
quakebox
Max(IT)The scalping business is an issue far more extended than we thought.

MSI scalping

most probably every single vendor is doing that with controlled third party.
Hmm very interesting theory... I also wonder how on earth a smart company like Nvidia and AMD let a bunch of scalpers disrupt their market maybe it's on purpose.
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#36
cst1992
Max(IT)Here in Europe the 3080 is around $890 for the FE, which is absolutely impossible to buy. Most other models are above $1100 VAT included.
And this is according to Nvidia official website, so we are not speaking about scalpers.

On Amazon you could easily found scalpers selling a 3070 for the equivalent of $1200, and a 3080 for $1400. And they sold out in MINUTES, literally.

So please stop speaking about MSRP, since it was Nvidia (and AMD) trolling customers.
It's not NVIDIA or AMD trolling customers, it's the price the websites linked there are selling at.
I know because I bought my 3060 Ti from such a site.
Luckily the site that was linked was a distributor's site, so I was able to secure the card for relatively cheap. Even Amazon India has the 3060 Ti for exorbitant prices - over INR50,000 in some cases($680).
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#37
Max(IT)
I’d like to put in a locked room Nvidia CEO and all the 3070 and 3060 Ti customers, with their 8 Gb cards. And let him explain them this new 3060 with 12 Gb VRAM.
I really like their products, but really hate their management...
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#38
quakebox
Max(IT)I’d like to put in a locked room Nvidia CEO and all the 3070 and 3060 Ti customers, with their 8 Gb cards. And let him explain them this new 3060 with 12 Gb VRAM.
I really like their products, but really hate their management...
Maybe the 8GB is of a faster type of memory? If it's the same type then I want to know why too.
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#39
cst1992
quakeboxMaybe the 8GB is of a faster type of memory? If it's the same type then I want to know why too.
It's the same type.
GDDR6X is only on the 3080 and 3090.
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#40
Max(IT)
quakeboxMaybe the 8GB is of a faster type of memory? If it's the same type then I want to know why too.
No,it’s the same.
We don’t know about the bus yet. Maybe 3060 has a smaller bus.
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#41
Caring1
Max(IT)I’d like to put in a locked room Nvidia CEO and all the 3070 and 3060 Ti customers, with their 8 Gb cards. And let him explain them this new 3060 with 12 Gb VRAM.
I really like their products, but really hate their management...
I don't see a problem, early adopters get what they pay for.
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#42
darrenj
Max(IT)Please stop speaking about $699 for 3080. Nvidia lied and you are making their game. Here in Europe you are lucky if you can find a 3080 at €900...
Word!
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#43
Max(IT)
Caring1I don't see a problem, early adopters get what they pay for.
In case you didn’t notice, Nvidia 3070 were released MONTHS ago.
The “early adopters” meme doesn’t apply here.
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#44
Sunny and 75
RaevenlordRTX 3080 10 GB graphics card at a virtual $699 and its top-of-the-line RTX 3090 graphics card at #$1,499 - better to compete with the RX 6900 at (an also virtual) $999.
Those virtual price tags just scream forget about us and skip this generation.
RaevenlordHowever, the RTX 3060 being listed in a 12 GB GDDR6 version (with a certain 6 GB version being on its way as well) really is puzzling; that graphics card, which is expected to pack only 3840 CUDA cores in its GA106 chip, will run out of shading and RT power long before that VRAM pool is exhausted.
That's indeed going to be the case. Let's hope that a 3060 getting 12 GB of VRAM is just an indication that we also are gonna see a 16 GB 3070 Super/Ti variant somewhere down the line.
RaevenlordThus it is seemingly confirmed that NVIDIA dropped official plans to offer the RTX 3080 in 20 GB GDDR6X flavor, and is instead packing its RTX 3080 Ti with that amount of graphics memory - that should serve to make the model even more attractive to users who were still trying to get an RTX 3080 series, as the drama surrounding that cards' 10 GB of VRAM is well-known across the tech industry and consumers.
10 GB of VRAM is simply not enough going forward. RTX 3080 Ti is the better offering overall among 30 series lineup but with virtual prices surrounding us, a 3070 Super/Ti at the 3080 Ti MSRP (presumably $999) would be a good choice in these current times.
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#45
Max(IT)
Adc7dTPU10 GB of VRAM is simply not enough going forward.
based on what ? Marketing ?
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#46
cst1992
VRAM usage in Cyberpunk 2077 4K Ultra settings apparently.
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#47
Max(IT)
cst1992VRAM usage in Cyberpunk 2077 4K Ultra settings apparently.
do you have a link about that ?
Are you speaking about VRAM actually USED or just ALLOCATED ?
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#48
seth1911
Well done first scam the idiots they spend 500+++$ for a 8/10GB 3070/80.:nutkick:

After that, they bring the normal Cards :)
Never buy on a release day
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#49
cst1992
Max(IT)do you have a link about that ?
Are you speaking about VRAM actually USED or just ALLOCATED ?
Allocated.
It's there in the TPU review of Cyberpunk 2077. They did a special review of it because of the game's popularity.
seth1911Well done first scam the idiots they spend 500+++$ for a 8/10GB 3070/80.:nutkick:

After that, they bring the normal Cards :)
Never buy on a release day
It's panic buying, like how they do when a stock becomes too popular.
Just keep your head on straight, know the real value of the item and be patient, you should be fine(well, not *you*, but you get the idea).
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#50
Sunny and 75
Max(IT)based on what ? Marketing ?
Well, for instance, Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War uses roughly 15 GB VRAM with official HD texture pack installed. And that's not even 4K. Trust me, 10 GB VRAM may be enough for now but late 2021 and beyond not so much.
Considering you've spent nearly $1200 on a new graphics card, you'd want it to have at least 12 GB VRAM.

A quick look around the web and you'll see countless leaks about a 16 GB variant of the RTX 3080 Mobile which Nvidia is going to unveil alongside other RTX 30 mobile GPUs on January 12, two days from now.

Now 3080 Ti is what interests me the most, though I fear the price might be too high in these times. But I got a feeling things will settle down a bit later in 2H 2021, fingers crossed!
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