Yay atleast its a different issue now, I used to get huge stutters on my end ( Same problems nvidia. - GIF - Imgur ) but now the displays themselves turn off and on step by step I guess (Version 2 - GIF - Imgur)

Reverting back to 456 (windows provided driver) I guess.

Crazy that they're still supporting Kepler. The 680 launched NINE YEARS AGO and is no faster than a 1050 TI (according to TPU).

hsewCrazy that they're still supporting Kepler. The 680 launched NINE YEARS AGO and is no faster than a 1050 TI (according to TPU).

Nvidia has a history of long running support for older cards. Their DX10 lineup started in 2006 and got driver updates until 2014, the DX11 fermis got support until 2018. Until DX11 stopps being widely used kepler will likely continue to get driver updates.

Battler624Yay atleast its a different issue now, I used to get huge stutters on my end ( Same problems nvidia. - GIF - Imgur ) but now the displays themselves turn off and on step by step I guess (Version 2 - GIF - Imgur)

Reverting back to 456 (windows provided driver) I guess.

You sure that's not your mouse? That windows sound is usually only for unplugging a USB device, and unplugging a display does not emit that kind of sound. I just unplugged my display and plugged it back in, no sound. I also tried only showing on the 1st display, no sound. I am 99% sure it's your mouse, because based on the video, it looks like the mouse stuttered when those sounds emitted. It is possibly caused by the mouse requiring more power than the USB port can provide (likely caused by a high polling rate or LEDs).

Berfs1You sure that's not your mouse? That windows sound is usually only for unplugging a USB device, and unplugging a display does not emit that kind of sound. I just unplugged my display and plugged it back in, no sound. I also tried only showing on the 1st display, no sound. I am 99% sure it's your mouse, because based on the video, it looks like the mouse stuttered when those sounds emitted. It is possibly caused by the mouse requiring more power than the USB port can provide (likely caused by a high polling rate or LEDs).

Definitely not the mouse, even without a single USB device connected i get this sound.

And the stutter happens regardless.

Now the screens completely turn off and on.

I'm assuming extracting the driver files, deleting everything except NVI2, Display.Driver, setup.exe and setup.cfg, and installing it that way, is the same as using NVCleanstall?

Battler624Definitely not the mouse, even without a single USB device connected i get this sound.

And the stutter happens regardless.

Now the screens completely turn off and on.

Which graphics card, motherboard (if ryzen, which CPU), and power supply do you have? Also, which slot do you have the graphics card in, and do you have any other devices in any other expansion slot?

AlexaI'm assuming extracting the driver files, deleting everything except NVI2, Display.Driver, setup.exe and setup.cfg, and installing it that way, is the same as using NVCleanstall?

I mean personally I just uninstall the drivers, then delete the NVIDIA folders in the C drive, or I do a clean reinstall to ensure no issues, but using DisplayDriverUninstaller works for most people too.

hsewCrazy that they're still supporting Kepler. The 680 launched NINE YEARS AGO and is no faster than a 1050 TI (according to TPU).

I'd say that's a good thing.

Edit: On the other side there are still "fake" GPU's around, then if there would not be driver support for the old cards they use it wouldn't work anymore...

AlexaI'm assuming extracting the driver files, deleting everything except NVI2, Display.Driver, setup.exe and setup.cfg, and installing it that way, is the same as using NVCleanstall?

Berfs1I mean personally I just uninstall the drivers, then delete the NVIDIA folders in the C drive, or I do a clean reinstall to ensure no issues, but using DisplayDriverUninstaller works for most people too.

Why do any of that? You can install new driver thru its installer w/o having to uninstall first since it does it at time of install. DDU isn't as needed nowadays. I only download the latest one when the need arises which is rare these days.

Berfs1Which graphics card, motherboard (if ryzen, which CPU), and power supply do you have? Also, which slot do you have the graphics card in, and do you have any other devices in any other expansion slot?

3080, Dark hero (had 2 different boards from gigabyte with the same problem), 5900 (also had 2x 5600 and 1x 5800), RM750 corsair (also had a gigabyte 850w dont know the name but it was bundled with the 3080). First slot, other slots not used.

I stayed with the driver in this post and left the pc alone (still haven't went back) and everything went to shit, event viewer says not available network path thing, task manager wont open nor would anything windows related.

Now after restarting I see the logs (working) and ever since the install of that driver I had 6 Errors (3x distributedCOM, 1x kernal-eventtracing (PerfDiag Logger), 1x windowsupdateclient, 1x application error which was the motherboard software of darkhero).

Berfs1Which graphics card, motherboard (if ryzen, which CPU), and power supply do you have? Also, which slot do you have the graphics card in, and do you have any other devices in any other expansion slot?


I mean personally I just uninstall the drivers, then delete the NVIDIA folders in the C drive, or I do a clean reinstall to ensure no issues, but using DisplayDriverUninstaller works for most people too.

Using DDU for every driver install is gonna drive me insane. I only do it if there's a specific driver issue.

Extracting the driver files and only keeping the essentials seems to work fine for me when NVCleanstall doesn't have the driver listed, only 2 NVIDIA processes running.

im confused. i used that hotfix installer to update, but im on 456.71:wtf:

maybe i need to do a clean install, its been about 3 years of piling driver on top of driver.

This driver isnt showing in GFE


how odd

Battler6243080, Dark hero (had 2 different boards from gigabyte with the same problem), 5900 (also had 2x 5600 and 1x 5800), RM750 corsair (also had a gigabyte 850w dont know the name but it was bundled with the 3080). First slot, other slots not used.

I stayed with the driver in this post and left the pc alone (still haven't went back) and everything went to shit, event viewer says not available network path thing, task manager wont open nor would anything windows related.

Now after restarting I see the logs (working) and ever since the install of that driver I had 6 Errors (3x distributedCOM, 1x kernal-eventtracing (PerfDiag Logger), 1x windowsupdateclient, 1x application error which was the motherboard software of darkhero).

only thing i can think of is this hothardware.com/news/amd-investigates-usb-flakiness-with-pcie-4-and-500-chipsets-possible-fixes but i dont know what u are using :P

MusselsThis driver isnt showing in GFE


how odd

Yeah.... I think Windows is trying to keep reinstalling the driver until it works, though I can't confirm that.

Battler6243080, Dark hero (had 2 different boards from gigabyte with the same problem), 5900 (also had 2x 5600 and 1x 5800), RM750 corsair (also had a gigabyte 850w dont know the name but it was bundled with the 3080). First slot, other slots not used.

I stayed with the driver in this post and left the pc alone (still haven't went back) and everything went to shit, event viewer says not available network path thing, task manager wont open nor would anything windows related.

Now after restarting I see the logs (working) and ever since the install of that driver I had 6 Errors (3x distributedCOM, 1x kernal-eventtracing (PerfDiag Logger), 1x windowsupdateclient, 1x application error which was the motherboard software of darkhero).

So... Crosshair 8 Dark Hero, which is X570. You state you have tested 4 different CPUs (all being Ryzen 5000), what BIOS version are you running? Have you tried running the graphics card in any other slot? And, have you tried another display cable, or maybe another video port on the graphics card and/or monitor?

You also state that even task manager was not responding or anything windows related. So, the only time this particular issue has ever happened to me was when I connected a known corrupt hard drive to the computer via an external USB to SATA adapter. What I'm getting at is, there is a chance one of your storage drives might be corrupt. Yes this is a very long shot, but try running sfc /scannow and see if it brings up anything.

thesmokingmanWhy do any of that? You can install new driver thru its installer w/o having to uninstall first since it does it at time of install. DDU isn't as needed nowadays. I only download the latest one when the need arises which is rare these days.

Because in some instances you can't even get to the installation part of the installer. In rare instances there are hardware "issues" that prevent even installing the GPU driver normally; I have an i7-3770K and I had my iGPU overclocked to ~1400 MHz, and it was perfectly stable like 3 months ago, well I tried to install the NVIDIA driver for my 1650 Super, and it would not work, no mattery what I tried, the computer would crash. I legit thought my GPU was dying, turns out it actually was my iGPU that was causing the issue, and I lowered it to 1300, and I was able to install the GPU normally. Yes, you may think I am an idiot for suggesting things that aren't obviously related, but trust me, in some instances, literally anything could be the issue.

AlexaI'm assuming extracting the driver files, deleting everything except NVI2, Display.Driver, setup.exe and setup.cfg, and installing it that way, is the same as using NVCleanstall?

No, not really. NVCleanstall both provides more modularity and is less likely to break things than what you just described.

R-T-BNo, not really. NVCleanstall both provides more modularity and is less likely to break things than what you just described.

Well too bad it doesn't support hotfixes. I did that method with drivers before I knew of NVCleanstall and had no issues.

AlexaWell too bad it doesn't support hotfixes. I did that method with drivers before I knew of NVCleanstall and had no issues.

it works with any driver, just download the exe and point it to it

R-T-BNo, not really. NVCleanstall both provides more modularity and is less likely to break things than what you just described.

Is there any other difference (except auto update checking) between NVCleanstall and extract driver, remove unused folders and install them via device manager?

What I've noticed is NVCleanstall changes driver signature.

the4anoniWhat I've noticed is NVCleanstall changes driver signature.

This is to remove telemetry. It mods the inf file.

Musselsit works with any driver, just download the exe and point it to it

I'm blind thanks

hsewCrazy that they're still supporting Kepler. The 680 launched NINE YEARS AGO and is no faster than a 1050 TI (according to TPU).

that is crazy. i upgraded my brothers GPU recently from a evga 670 ftw 4g to a 1060 6gb and the performance was insane compared to that old gpu