claes

:shrug:

Edit: ugh I hate these debates... just checked the cost of that machine and noticed that $6000 != $10000 — at least try if you’re gonna troll me!

www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro/tower#

region pricing
in my region it is 10000 dollars

Isaac`and 10000 dollars from apple
for a 8 core cpu 32g ram 256g storage and a rx 580 "pro"
i promise you i can build somthing better for cheaper

Perhaps you could, although it wouldn't have the prestigious apple stamp of approval.
Apple is not overpriced garbage, and like Operandi said, it is great for professional use.

Aiden_Perhaps you could, although it wouldn't have the prestigious apple stamp of approval.
Apple is not overpriced garbage, and like Operandi said, it is great for professional use.

Cough hackintosh cough
Besides i mention the apple sticker earlier up

Hello Disney I would like to sell you a hackintosh — it’s just like those Macs you use except that I’ll have to update your sound drivers every now and again, you probably can’t do RAID, your GPU might be incompatible on the next OS, 10GB Ethernet is questionable, sleep and speedstep might not work, TB might not work/doesn’t exist, you may not be able to use any cloud services or Apple ecosystem privileges, and you can’t use an afterburner card — but you’ll save a couple grand.

Real talk — it’s a huge PITA to get X99/X299 to be stable on a hackintosh, let alone ready for a production environment, and you can’t run Ryzen, so I’m not sure how you’d compete other than a $400+ consumer Intel processor that doesn’t support ECC...

claesHello Disney I would like to sell you a hackintosh — it’s just like those Macs you use except that I’ll have to update your sound drivers every now and again, you probably can’t do RAID, your GPU might be incompatible on the next OS, 10GB Ethernet is questionable, sleep and speedstep might not work, TB might not work/doesn’t exist, you may not be able to use any cloud services or Apple ecosystem privileges, and you can’t use an afterburner card — but you’ll save a couple grand.

Real talk — it’s a huge PITA to get X99/X299 to be stable on a hackintosh, let alone ready for a production environment, and you can’t run Ryzen, so I’m not sure how you’d compete other than a $600 consumer Intel processor that doesn’t support ECC...

No fucking shit. Hackintoshs are super questionable even as a hobbyist, no professional would trust such a thing. They are pretty cool for what they are and I think you actually can get AMD running on them but com'on nobody that needs to rely on it is going to use one, proffessonal or otherwise. And really it won't matter for long though as Hackintoshs will soon be a thing of the past when they drop x86 code development.

As to the prcing.... for the people and companies buying Mac Pro the price of the hardware is nothing; they are primarily paying for the eco system and support none of which you get with a Hackintosh. And even the the Mac Pro hardware is some seriously well engineered hardware so you'd be buying the equivalent the highest-end components in the PC space to equal it in terms of quality and that says nothing about the Mac hardware being completely designed as single unit, not the garbage the PC space has with ATX thats like 3000 years old. If Apple marketing could somehow manage to not make themselves and their entire userbase look like douche tools with $700 caster wheels and $1,000 monitor stands alot of their hardware is priced where it should be for high-end gear.

OperandiThey are pretty cool for what they are and I think you actually can get AMD running on them but com'on nobody that needs to rely on it is going to use one, proffessonal or otherwise.

Ryzen technically works but with a ton of drawbacks:
dortania.github.io/Anti-Hackintosh-Buyers-Guide/CPU.html#cpus-to-avoid

OperandiNo fucking shit. Hackintoshs are super questionable even as a hobbyist, no professional would trust such a thing. They are pretty cool for what they are and I think you actually can get AMD running on them but com'on nobody that needs to rely on it is going to use one, proffessonal or otherwise. And really it won't matter for long though as Hackintoshs will soon be a thing of the past when they drop x86 code development.

As to the prcing.... for the people and companies buying Mac Pro the price of the hardware is nothing; they are primarily paying for the eco system and support none of which you get with a Hackintosh. And even the the Mac Pro hardware is some seriously well engineered hardware so you'd be buying the equivalent the highest-end components in the PC space to equal it in terms of quality and that says nothing about the Mac hardware being completely designed as single unit, not the garbage the PC space has with ATX thats like 3000 years old. If Apple marketing could somehow manage to not make themselves and their entire userbase look like douche tools with $700 caster wheels and $1,000 monitor stands alot of their hardware is priced where it should be for high-end gear.

It's the high end bit that's most debated ,. You yourself are on about old traditional PC based Mac's not apple's Arm based future and that again is a questionable high end at 19 bags.

You could buy a custom pc with support and more performance for less.