Monday, April 26th 2021

What AMD Didn't Tell Us: 21.4.1 Drivers Improve Non-Gaming Power Consumption By Up To 72%

AMD's recently released Radeon Software Adrenalin 21.4.1 WHQL drivers lower non-gaming power consumption, our testing finds. AMD did not mention these reductions in the changelog of its new driver release. We did a round of testing, comparing the previous 21.3.2 drivers, with 21.4.1, using Radeon RX 6000 series SKUs, namely the RX 6700 XT, RX 6800, RX 6800 XT, and RX 6900 XT. Our results show significant power-consumption improvements in certain non-gaming scenarios, such as system idle and media playback.

The Radeon RX 6700 XT shows no idle power draw reduction; but the RX 6800, RX 6800 XT, and RX 6900 XT posted big drops in idle power consumption, at 1440p, going down from 25 W to 5 W (down by about 72%). There are no changes with multi-monitor. Media playback power draw sees up to 30% lower power consumption for the RX 6800, RX 6800 XT, and RX 6900 XT. This is a huge improvement for builders of media PC systems, as not only power is affected, but heat and noise, too.
Why AMD didn't mention these huge improvements is anyone's guess, but a closer look at the numbers could drop some hints. Even with media playback power draw dropping from roughly 50 W to 35 W, the RX 6800/6900 series chips still end up using more power than competing NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30-series SKUs. The RTX 3070 pulls 18 W, while the RTX 3080 does 27 W, both of which are lower. We tested the driver on the older-generation RX 5700 XT, and saw no changes. Radeon RX 6700 XT already had very decent power consumption in these states, so our theory is that for the Navi 22 GPU on the RX 6700 XT AMD improved certain power consumption shortcomings that were found after RX 6800 release. Since those turned out to be stable, they were backported to the Navi 21-based RX 6800/6900 series, too.
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63 Comments on What AMD Didn't Tell Us: 21.4.1 Drivers Improve Non-Gaming Power Consumption By Up To 72%

#51
shadow3401
FrickWaste of power isn't a minor problem. And AMD had quite bad non gaming power numbers long after Nvidia imroved theirs. These days there is no good reason why AMD has worse numbers tham Nvidia.
Yes it is a minor problem, it's not a danger to life or anything close to it. A slight increase in power consumption doesn't stop you from using a computer in any way. It doesn't stop you from gaming, watching youtube, looking at webpages and idling away on a desktop. All it does mean it takes more power to do all those things. It seems more to be driver related than anything else and it will be resolved really soon.
lasSalty, why? :laugh: Simply the truth



Nah AMD is not bad but their drivers are wonky, they seem to focus mostly on games that gets benchmarked often - most early access titles run way worse on AMD, so does lesser known games. Had a 5700XT for most of 2020...
Agreed the software side of AMD GPUs have always been up and down over the years.
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#52
Vinas
Multi monitor power consumption stays high because the gddr is running in the high power profile so it can refresh between sync frames.

Two cards running a single monitor each is a better experience and uses ~40% less idle (2d) power.

AMD and nvidia need to address that another way.

PS: HMB didn't have this problem but it did suffer from multi monitor stability issues, related?
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#53
RIckyXDs
shadow3401Yes it is a minor problem, it's not a danger to life or anything close to it. A slight increase in power consumption doesn't stop you from using a computer in any way. It doesn't stop you from gaming, watching youtube, looking at webpages and idling away on a desktop. All it does mean it takes more power to do all those things. It seems more to be driver related than anything else and it will be resolved really soon.



Agreed the software side of AMD GPUs have always been up and down over the years.
I think It is because the Ryzen Mobile 2000, 3000, 4000 and 5000 series has battery drain issue when you install APU Drivers and Radeon Software is running in background. If you close Radeon Software you can increase Ryzen's mobile battery by 100% or in others words Double the battery autonomy.

I test the Ryzen 5 2500U, Ryzen 5 3500u and Ryzen 5 4600H... If you install any APU driver, and close manually Radeon Software in task manager, you can Double battery duration

And when Microsoft Release surface laptop 4 and it's battery autonomy is high than any other laptop with Ryzen Chip I think that my point could be correct!

Radeon Software had a drain battery bug! but the bug does not exist and the effect was chained
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#54
Vinas
londisteWhat changed to drop the power consumption, lowered clocks on GPU/VRAM?
Yes
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#55
ECC_is_best
What about Linux users? When will we have the benefit?
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#56
Caring1
shadow3401Agreed the software side of AMD GPUs have always been up and down over the years.
Fixed that for you.
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#57
R-T-B
ECC_is_bestWhat about Linux users? When will we have the benefit?
You probably already do.

The AMD drivers on linux are OSS and massively better than the closed source equivalents.
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#58
zlobby
ECC_is_bestWhat about Linux users? When will we have the benefit?
With WSL (WeaSeL) it's even simpler. Or maybe a VM?
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#59
ultravy
lynx29did you report it through amd software? i did. and i know one other did. the more who report this issue the sooner it gets fixed. you can't complain unless you do the bug report tool in amd software.
I think everybody who has this problems reported with every driver release! They get to many reports to check or they don't care. I did report btw;)
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#60
Space Lynx
Astronaut
ultravyI think everybody who has this problems reported with every driver release! They get to many reports to check or they don't care. I did report btw;)
you need to update your system specs.
XuperTPU , Can you check CRU in multi-monitor ? for at least 6800 series.some claims they gain lower memory clock by using CRU
I'm not an expert at CRU but I have used it before... this is interesting... you may be right there may be a way to do this and fix the memory clock issue with CRU, I am not savvy enough with the timings though to do such a thing.
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#61
jrzanolini
DeeJay1001Haven't updated yet but hopefully the issue with memory clocks unable to idle with a 144hz display have been resolved. Other than that my Aorus Master version of the 6800XT has been one of the most stable, non-issue GPUs I've ever owned. It crushes every game out there and it does so quietly with low power consumption.
The problem is caused by how your monitor handles screen synchronization. Screens with synchronization other than the CVT standard tend to present this problem:

- SOLUTION: Create a custom resolution (144, 165 or the maximum display standard of your monitor) using AMD software, and choose the type of CVT synchronization.

There, your memory will return to normal operating patterns.
ultravyHow about fixing 165hz refresh on monitors, memory clock stays at full speed! Changing to 144 fixes the problem!
The problem is caused by how your monitor handles screen synchronization. Screens with synchronization other than the CVT standard tend to present this problem:

- SOLUTION: Create a custom resolution (144, 165 or the maximum display standard of your monitor) using AMD software, and choose the type of CVT synchronization.

There, your memory will return to normal operating patterns.
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#62
ultravy
lynx29you need to update your system specs.
What did you mean by updating system specs?
Fixed :D
jrzanoliniThe problem is caused by how your monitor handles screen synchronization. Screens with synchronization other than the CVT standard tend to present this problem:

- SOLUTION: Create a custom resolution (144, 165 or the maximum display standard of your monitor) using AMD software, and choose the type of CVT synchronization.

There, your memory will return to normal operating patterns.
Just done that, and i've got nice gray flickering image on my display - ASUS VG27WQ1B !
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#63
DeeJay1001
jrzanoliniThe problem is caused by how your monitor handles screen synchronization. Screens with synchronization other than the CVT standard tend to present this problem:

- SOLUTION: Create a custom resolution (144, 165 or the maximum display standard of your monitor) using AMD software, and choose the type of CVT synchronization.

There, your memory will return to normal operating patterns.
Setting as custom resolution as you suggested makes everything micro stutter and added a weird grain to my monitor (LG 27GN850).
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