RedelZaVednoSelling 2000 units a week is nothing when you look at how many dGPUs is being actually produced.

It's pretty darn high volume by online shops standards.
And it reflects what DIY people in that particular region are buying.
And Germany is one hell of a market.

RedelZaVednoIn FY 2021, the Graphics segment generated $9.8 billion, or about 59%

Let's compare it to AMD's last reported quarter, which is even before RDNA2 sales hit hard:

Quarterly Financial Segment Summary

• Computing and Graphics segment revenue was $2.10 billion, up 46 percent year-over-year and 7 percent quarter-over-quarter primarily driven by Ryzen processor and Radeon graphics product sales growth.

So, that is what, about 8 billion for a full year, for, okay okay, both CPUs and GPUs, but so what.

xorbeThere are those that need and will pay for the 24GB vram of the 3090, as it's still cheaper than Quadros.

Yes, I'm sure that will make the difference for some. That's so huge. My system RAM is only 16GB lol.

lemoncarbonateCan nvidia make the 3080 Ti memorable like the legendary 1080 Ti? Still remember that card launched faster and cheaper than TitanP. They need to make this card faster than 3090 to make it happen. The gap between 3080 and 3090 for gaming is so narrow already.

There is no way in hell these neutered cards that are barely available will get any of the 1080ti's cult status. Or the 980ti's. Both excellent, long lasting products that still perform admirably. They're balanced just right. Ampere won't have any of this because the whole series is a big box of compromises. And a lot of that is down to a simple thing: the node is shite and unrefined, while the 1080ti used an excellent TSMC 16nm process and the 980ti a fully developed and refined 28nm TSMC process.

Note how AMD's 7nm, highly efficient RDNA2 is also on a TSMC node ;)

I'm not touching Samsung's 8nm with a ten foot pole. And luckily, we can't anyway :D They're on a steep learning curve and it shows. Many of their fab stuff, while making strides, isn't quite perfect. Remember, pre-Ampere we all banked on getting that gen on TSMC. Even Nvidia, as you can see by the stack they released initially and still expand on. Its a complete and utter mess and there is only one explanation. Even with all the compromises and tweaks, the TDPs have exploded.

Vayra86Even with all the compromises and tweaks, the TDPs have exploded.

So true, This may sound like an unpopular opinion, but I prefer a high end card with lower TDP and power consumption.
Just seeing those 3x 8 pin connector in most of AIBs is enough to make me back away.

Pascal was a phenomenal card at launch with only 1x 8pin connector for GTX 1080. Even 1080 Ti only uses 8+6pin.
My 1080 Ti Trio is using 2x 8pin.

I hope RTX 40xx and RX 7000 series have much lower TDP and power consumption. Or maybe Nvidia and AMD want to bring 500W TDP???

lemoncarbonateSo true, This may sound like an unpopular opinion, but I prefer a high end card with lower TDP and power consumption.
Just seeing those 3x 8 pin connector in most of AIBs is enough to make me back away.

Pascal was a phenomenal card at launch with only 1x 8pin connector for GTX 1080. Even 1080 Ti only uses 8+6pin.
My 1080 Ti Trio is using 2x 8pin.

I hope RTX 40xx and RX 7000 series have much lower TDP and power consumption. Or maybe Nvidia and AMD want to bring 500W TDP???

Exactly. And its not a sentiment I have just because "I have a 1080" and then stopped upgrading. I sincerely stopped upgrading because what I saw with Turing, RTX, power budgets and FPS/dollar was not something I wanted to support even a little bit.

There is no necessity involved here, its Nvidia shoveling RT marketing BS with nothing to show for it. Oh yay, our god rays and shadows are real time now, and cost 3x as many resources. I sincerely can't even begin to care. Games are about gameplay, and graphics are just a tiny part of the puzzle, so graphics cards shouldn't suddenly be moving to different price points for what is essentially similar performance. That only happens if the technology is overpriced or underdelivers. And it does both.

The only real advance I've seen in graphics for gaming is not RT, but rather the highly improved algorithms for what is essentially (SS)AA. The upscale/downscale/approximation trick is almost down to perfection. Is that due to RT? I suppose the lukewarm reception of RTX in the entire industry for gaming, which relates directly to the immense performance hit, has been a primary driver to make DLSS happen, indeed. But another major influence would have inspired the development regardless: Higher resolutions. They enable higher render targets which in turn inspire tricks to keep that playable. But, our raster-based tech is so efficient, even the jump to 4K was doable within two generations, coming from 1080p "mid range even slaughters it" territory.

I'm eagerly awaiting a normally priced mid-to-high end GPU in the x70/x80 tier that is not overloaded with promises that won't be kept. In that sense, Pascal had everything: superb efficiency, smaller dies, higher clocks and much more VRAM per % of relative performance... we only made steps back ever since... and stack new tech on top to still keep things in check. It feels like two steps forward and one step back, or perhaps even two at the end of the day.

A clear sign of immature and rushed tech that was needed mostly to drive share price and create new demand where in fact all demands were satisfied. While I understand companies need to make money, this RTX move just oozed greed at the expense of everything else that would make it a good deal. Pre-empting a slow development to somehow control it. Its disgusting and we should not support it as it doesn't lead to better games or gaming.

qubitOt maybe NVIDIA will bring out a "3090 Ti" halo card with the full chip enabled? We'll find out soon enough.

3090 Ti will be 2 3090 dies on a single PCB.
48GB VRAM, 6 8-pin power connectors and a 5-slot cooler.

Or maybe it'll be the Quadro RTX 8000 on Ampere, so 48GB instead of 24GB VRAM.
VRAM gonna get toasty though.

Another boring $1500 gpu launch.......................wake me up when they launch the RTX 3050 or RX 6600

N3M3515Another boring $1500 gpu launch.......................wake me up when they launch the RTX 3050 or RX 6600

Sleep tight, sweet prince.