Sunday, June 27th 2021

Windows 11 Free Upgrade for Windows 10 Users Only by 1H-2022

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Microsoft, in a tweet late last week, announced that while Windows 11 launches later this year in 2021, the operating system won't be made available as a free upgrade to existing Windows 10 users before the first half of 2022. This would mean that existing Windows 10 users wanting to try Windows 11 out this year, might have to purchase a retail or OEM license to Windows 11. "Windows 11 is due out later in 2021 and will be delivered over several months. The rollout of the upgrade to Windows 10 devices already in use today will begin in 2022 through the first half of that year," tweeted the official Windows handle.
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53 Comments on Windows 11 Free Upgrade for Windows 10 Users Only by 1H-2022

#26
lexluthermiester
ChomiqAs for TPM & SecureBoot - sadly I don't think many users are aware of what it is and will simply accept it.
Except for those who have older equipment that do not have TPM(or an older non-compliant version) or SecureBoot and yet would still run Windows 11 perfectly.
windwhirlEh, I feel like the only guy in the world that has less than a dozen complaints about it lol
I'm with you there. My complaints are few, so far. But the TPM & SecureBoot are deal-breakers...
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#27
MikeSnow
ExcuseMeWtfNot if they keep TPM requirement lol.
Yes, it's entirely plausible that many TPU users don't know how to enable the firmware based TPU in UEFI.
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#28
lexluthermiester
MikeSnowYes, it's entirely plausible that many TPM users don't know how to enable the firmware based TPM in UEFI.
Fixed that. TPM not TPU...
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#29
MikeSnow
lexluthermiesterFixed that. TPM not TPU...
Thanks. Note to self, thou shalt not post while drunk.
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#30
ExcuseMeWtf
MikeSnowYes, it's entirely plausible that many TPU users don't know how to enable the firmware based TPU in UEFI.
Those with older motherboards would have to buy dedicated module.

If those motherboards even have such connector to begin with.

Here's video explaining it in more detail:

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#31
aindriu
Windows 11 is nothing more than a beta product at the moment, who wants to try that on their main machine, another year to fix the bugs.
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#32
Parn
As if I wanted to jump on the Win11 bandwagon asap and be a beta tester... No thanks, MS. I can happily wait until I absolutely have to upgrade.
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#33
lexluthermiester
aindriuWindows 11 is nothing more than a beta product at the moment, who wants to try that on their main machine, another year to fix the bugs.
You are missing the point. There a great many enthusists here at TPU and most of us have 2 or more PC's in our home. I have 9 for example. And I have stacks of spare HDD's and SSD's. So testing out alpha and beta software is often a trivial effort for the regulars who visit here. Take that in for a moment before giving any of us grief.
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#34
windwhirl
lexluthermiesterYou are missing the point. There a great many enthusists here at TPU and most of us have 2 or more PC's in our home. I have 9 for example. And I have stacks of spare HDD's and SSD's. So testing out alpha and beta software is often a trivial effort for the regulars who visit here. Take that in for a moment before giving any of us grief.
And then you have the dummies like me that throw all eggs in one basket and go all beta in their single daily driver :laugh:
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#35
ThrashZone
Hi,
Yeah I'm not all that compulsive anymore especially windows wise I dropped out of insiders nonsense long ago lol
Lack of hardware last couple years has really helped my willpower of compulsive "what the hell purchasing" :D
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#36
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
lexluthermiesterYou are missing the point. There a great many enthusists here at TPU and most of us have 2 or more PC's in our home. I have 9 for example. And I have stacks of spare HDD's and SSD's. So testing out alpha and beta software is often a trivial effort for the regulars who visit here. Take that in for a moment before giving any of us grief.
Yep, and i'm gunna get a new SSD (was planning on a 2TB one anyway) and put W11 on that, and dual boot. - no reason it cant store games, even if that aint the booted OS.
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#37
lexluthermiester
Musselsand put W11 on that, and dual boot
And there's your problem. If you don't use a customized iso of 11, you will NOT be able to dual boot with SecureBoot enabled. Last time time I checked trying to dual boot a SecureBoot system was like sticking a red-hot ember in your butt-crack. This is one of several reasons why I have a huge problem with SecureBoot.
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#38
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
lexluthermiesterAnd there's your problem. If you don't use a customized iso of 11, you will NOT be able to dual boot with SecureBoot enabled. Last time time I checked trying to dual boot a SecureBoot system was like sticking a red-hot ember in your butt-crack. This is one of several reasons why I have a huge problem with SecureBoot.
i dont need it to be the traditional dual boot - i can toggle BIOS settings to switch between them
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#39
lexluthermiester
Musselsi dont need it to be the traditional dual boot - i can toggle BIOS settings to switch between them
Another PITA. Use a modded iso. It'll be much easier.
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#40
windwhirl
lexluthermiesteryou will NOT be able to dual boot with SecureBoot enabled
Did not know that, thanks for the info.

Wait, so Linux can't boot at all with SecureBoot? I thought that issue had been solved...
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#41
lexluthermiester
MJD just reviewed the 22000.51 build and it looks interesting.

windwhirlWait, so Linux can't boot at all with SecureBoot? I thought that issue had been solved...
Depends on which distro you use. It also depends on how you install. Just a tip, DON'T use both OSes on the same physical drive. Buy separate drives.
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#42
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
I'm gunna be stupid and force W11 to install on my laptop to fart about with it
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#43
lexluthermiester
MusselsI'm gunna be stupid and force W11 to install on my laptop to fart about with it
Be smart about it, use a spare drive. That's what I'm doing.

And follow this ISO building technique;
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#44
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
Oh i get it, he's using the W10 installer to install W11. Sneaky.
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#45
lexluthermiester
MusselsOh i get it, he's using the W10 installer to install W11. Sneaky.
It works perfectly. Word of warning though, when you first boot the setup, it'll blink the Windows logo and then show a blinking cursor. It's still going, just give it a few minutes.
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#46
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
lexluthermiesterIt works perfectly. Word of warning though, when you first boot the setup, it'll blink the Windows logo and then show a blinking cursor. It's still going, just give it a few minutes.
can do. when the ISO finishes, i'll throw this on my (almost never used) laptop and see how it behaves.
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#47
ThrashZone
Hi,
Yeah alt+f4 seems to be working fine for now.
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#48
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
Ancient laptops working fine in W11, only had to install the Intel IME driver and card reader driver. Exe's worked despite being for windows 7, which was nice.

I dont have any issues, its not a gaming laptop but all hardware is working smoothly. No slow blinking cursor bug here either, Lex
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#49
lexluthermiester
MusselsAncient laptops working fine in W11, only had to install the Intel IME driver and card reader driver. Exe's worked despite being for windows 7, which was nice.

I dont have any issues, its not a gaming laptop but all hardware is working smoothly. No slow blinking cursor bug here either, Lex
Your performance experience should be fine. I'm using a laptop with an i3-2310M and it's very smooth. No glitches, no crashes.
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#50
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
lexluthermiesterYour performance experience should be fine. I'm using a laptop with an i3-2310M and it's very smooth. No glitches, no crashes.
i7 4510U here, which means its a dual core basically the same as what you have.
SSD, 16GB of RAM and liquid metal on the CPU are a little abnormal for this era laptop to be fair, but it's smooth sailing.
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