Friday, August 6th 2021
AMD Ryzen 7 5700G and Ryzen 5 5600G Already Outselling 5800X and 5600X on Mindfactory
German online retailer Mindfactory may not be as big as Amazon, but it puts out its sales figures of PC hardware components, that often get picked up by the tech-press as a sample size. While using its data as a yardstick for AMD outselling Intel in the DIY market is debatable, sales of individual AMD or Intel products provide valuable insights to what consumers are after these days. Apparently, the recently launched Ryzen 7 5700G and Ryzen 5 5600G APUs are already outselling the Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X, respectively, for the week of 2nd August running.
AMD designed the Ryzen 7 5700G to succeed the popular Ryzen 7 3700X, and the 5600G to succeed the best-selling Ryzen 5 3600, which explains the absence of "Ryzen 7 5700X" or "Ryzen 5 5600," at least in the DIY market. It's little surprise then, that just as the 3700X outsold the 3800X, Mindfactory bagged orders for 820 units of 5700G, as opposed to 610 units of the 5800X; and 900 units of the 5600G, compared to 680 units of the 5600X. It's interesting to note that the 5700G even outsold the 5600X. The 5700G and 5600G are based on the 7 nm "Cezanne" silicon, which packs up to 8 "Zen 3" cores, and an iGPU with up to 512 stream processors. Unlike "Vermeer," Cezanne is a monolithic die.
Source:
Tech Epiphany (Twitter)
AMD designed the Ryzen 7 5700G to succeed the popular Ryzen 7 3700X, and the 5600G to succeed the best-selling Ryzen 5 3600, which explains the absence of "Ryzen 7 5700X" or "Ryzen 5 5600," at least in the DIY market. It's little surprise then, that just as the 3700X outsold the 3800X, Mindfactory bagged orders for 820 units of 5700G, as opposed to 610 units of the 5800X; and 900 units of the 5600G, compared to 680 units of the 5600X. It's interesting to note that the 5700G even outsold the 5600X. The 5700G and 5600G are based on the 7 nm "Cezanne" silicon, which packs up to 8 "Zen 3" cores, and an iGPU with up to 512 stream processors. Unlike "Vermeer," Cezanne is a monolithic die.
45 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 5700G and Ryzen 5 5600G Already Outselling 5800X and 5600X on Mindfactory
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If I built a zen 3 system it would be a 5700G
I will probably wait for zen 4. See if it’s ddr5 and how bugs and prices are on the new platform first. At that point maybe get a 5700G and ddr4 for a nice discount.
3700X launched at $330. 5700G launched at $360 ($30 more), and you get an iGPU, and incrementally more CPU performance than a 3700X. I'd say that's a fair deal. The only area where you're losing out is PCIe, you won't be able to take full advantage of the high-end Gen4 SSDs.
still this is good for indie gamers.
I guess some people really are struggling to find a dGPU. Personally I'd dump an old gpu from a decade-old rig in there and stick with the full-fat 5800X/5600X because that half-cache penalty will hurt performance for the entire time you have the CPU, not just the 6 months you need to wait before RTX 3060Ti cards come down to a sensible price.
You don't need the best GPU in the world, you just need a sub-$25 piece of junk that outputs to a display:
Arguably the Vega8 IGP in the 5700G is quite a lot better, but the list of games that run badly on the 5700G's IGP is similar to the list of games that run badly on a shitty old $15 GTX 460. Games either run fine at reasonable graphics settings or they are outside the enjoyable experience threshold on both the vega8 and an old GPU alike.
Unless you spend double-digit hours per week on a specific title that just happens to be on the edge of acceptable performance for a Vega8 IGP, there's really no point to having an IGP outside of troubleshooting.
My point is that there really isn't a very big list of titles that a 5700G can run well enough, but an ancient $25 GPU can't run well enough.
Either both IGP and GPU are fine, or both are bad enough that you wouldn't bother.
Where I was surprised was the BL3 performance difference?!! And obviously a few science benchmarks.
TBH, I do wonder how many games live in that overlap though, and also what percentage of people are happy with 720p/lowest/sub-60fps. I know that struggle well, since there were various games I tried to play on a Vega10 2700U laptop - not even a 25W TDP boost and faster RAM could help that play some things....
I wonder if we'll see a point when/where DDR will run in sync with L3 cache if the size of the L3 will be as critical then??
Still working on the CPU OC for my 5600G though, so not sure if it actually works yet.
Interestingly enough, there's a GFX Curve Optimizer. I run a pretty high daily OC of 2275/2300MHz on my 4650G/5600G and don't have any headroom left at 1.2V, so this will be fun to tinker if it works.
edit: not looking so great. Only works when iGPU not manually OC'd, but still basically does the same thing (ie. forces VDDCR_GFX = VSOC). Worst part is that it follows the same rules as PBO so max boost override is +200MHz. Not helpful when I'm already running 2275/2300Mhz.
For far less money, you basically a 5800 non-x with an IGP
The 5600G is a screamer for a great option for new gaming rigs
Otherwise, it's either Vermeer (no IGP but actual CPU performance in gaming due to 32MiB of cache) or Skylake (for the IGP fans if you need a debug, or just budget because Vermeer is still very expensive - in that latter case at your option, F without the IGP), both will see less of a CPU bottleneck, and in the latter case, for less $ too.