Monday, August 30th 2021
Microsoft to Ban Unsupported Machines from Windows 11 Updates
With pre-release builds of Microsoft's upcoming operating system, Windows 11, doing rounds, the PC enthusiast community has developed various workarounds to the system requirement of a hardware trusted-platform module 2.0 (TPM 2.0) for the operating system. Microsoft itself also suggested that those on older machines (without TPMs), who cannot upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11, have the option of performing a clean-installation of the new operating system using its ISO installer disk image.
These machines, however, will be treated as "unsupported," will not have access to Windows Update, and may potentially be barred from receiving important security updates. Microsoft recommends, however, that those who don't meet the system requirements of Windows 11 remain on Windows 10. The company plans to maintain support for Windows 10 up to October 14, 2025, which means four more years of security updates for the older operating system. The choice, hence, would be between upgrading hardware to meet Windows 11 requirements, or to remain on Windows 10 until Q4-2025.
Source:
HotHardware
These machines, however, will be treated as "unsupported," will not have access to Windows Update, and may potentially be barred from receiving important security updates. Microsoft recommends, however, that those who don't meet the system requirements of Windows 11 remain on Windows 10. The company plans to maintain support for Windows 10 up to October 14, 2025, which means four more years of security updates for the older operating system. The choice, hence, would be between upgrading hardware to meet Windows 11 requirements, or to remain on Windows 10 until Q4-2025.
125 Comments on Microsoft to Ban Unsupported Machines from Windows 11 Updates
Hope that didn't seem rude, no offense was intended. You're a new user, it's understandable that you need a pointer about a site feature.
And Welcome to TPU!
Though, now it begs the question of why that processor (which is, on top of being Zen1, a low end one) is on the list but the others are not. I mean, I'd understand it if all Zen1 processors were not supported, as one could simply make the assumption that Microsoft was not satisfied with their single thread performance (back when it launched it seemed to be somewhere pre-speculative execution mitigations Haswell's level). And as silly as it would sound, at least it would have been somewhat consistent. But with this... I don't know. Maybe for embedded or mobile applications, but it's strange nonetheless.That could be one possibility. Outside of DRM and Bitlocker, what other applications are there for a TPM? That don't require the user to go into configuring it or anything, an "it justs works" approach, a la Apple.Be that as it may, I'd have liked it if they had left the Windows 10 global association controls for less experienced users. And in general, it was a time saver, it set up most of the associations and then you could go in and change what you needed, but without having to go one by one.Well, that would be a game changer, I guess. I take it applications will have to be updated to do it? At least Foobar2000 still doesn't do it.
The text is in Spanish but it's basically pointing me to go to Settings to do the changes.
I mean, you tell me if you want to go one-by-one setting associations for Foobar200 when scrolling down the list of filetypes as fast as possible takes over 30 seconds lol
However, I agree, the one click easy setting should be side by side with the fine-grained settings.
So what's the solution here right? In this case the easy answer would be for microsoft to not try to sell computers and just sell their software licenses (no free upgrades) and let manufacturers figure their business out (computers will still need to be bought anyway!), but they seem to have done a different deal. With how chromebooks are taking off maybe not the best plan to pull this kind of stunts but let's see how it goes I guess
I have looked the new one, it is well not really good. I have installed open shell, and it placed it's start button to the left. The system either can be shut down from the left, or from the new menu. Seeing double menus made me laugh a bit! :) Stupid thing, I said....
Windows 10 is good, but I know how to update Windows 7 as well like paid customers with ESU bypass. I have started to think, do I have to use Windows 7 one more year or go through Windows 10. I have nVidia 670, 680, 770 and 780Ti on various machines based on Xeon v2, v3 and v4 CPU's. My latest is in my HP notebook, which carries a 3GB 1050. It has TPM 2.0 and Intel i7-1065G7 CPU. I will install Windows 11 to it, and see how it goes.
Need I say more?You are confusing three seperate concepts in that post. TPM, edrive, and SecureBoot. Yes they can work together but his core issue appears to be edrive not tpm or secure boot.
It can be done. Not sure how much more simple I can make it for you.No, it's a boot binary hash verifier. It's design is purely to protect against "evil-maid" attacks.
Now I know you are talking out of your butt, sorry.
PS: SecureBoot is something I use daily, and without a TPM I might add. We enroll our own TGC opal bootloader based on sedutil. No you can't see it.
Don't believe me? Install Windows 11 on a compliant system with everything enabled. Then, without changing any settings, try to boot a EBD like Hirens. When that fails, disable SecureBoot and try again. Let's see what happens when you get into the WinPE desktop... Yeah, have fun!Stop being childish.
That's where edrive fills the gaps. TCQ opal and its ilk.I'm really not trying to be but I was quoting you, for the record
I've lost track of what you're even trying to establish, so out.
It can. You need to set some gpedit keys but yeah.
Still confused.