TiggerCan we have a Intel/Microsoft conspiracy theory thread instead of crapping it all in here.

GURU7OF9Well I would have thought it would be much more likely to get existing known familiar hardware ie cpus working better and easier with new Win11 than an unreleased product ie alder lake?
Or is it purposefully built for Alder Lake ?
But I'm no developer!

R-T-BI mean the fix comes out before alder lake launch if you guys would read the article. I know, that's painful, but it might break your conspiracy worries down before they begin, and that's a good thing, right?

GURU7OF9Well we shall see if that actually occurs ?

Why_MeI thought most every thread in this forum was about a MS, Intel, Nvidia cabal out to get AMD conspiracy theory.

PatriotThat's just history not a conspiracy. Dev branch had the fix before they pushed broken to rtm. Its staying in dev longer than normal... Alders lake launching on the 4th will be hitting reviewers soon. Even if the patch is released before the 4th it could easily taint launch benchmarks. The only theory is that this was purposeful rather than incompetence and that simply requires time to see if it plays out.

Those laughing and being dismissive are clearly ignorant of the past and eager for it to repeat.

R-T-BI think those that think this is a conspiracy that will go over reviewers heads really don't have faith in their hardware reviewers.

PatriotFor the most part, those reviewers have already been hired by Intel.

R-T-BI'd advise you to find better reviewers.

That's not to say that buying reviewers is not an issue, but the best way to fight it is to stop giving shills of any type credibility and air time.

R-T-BYeah, I hear you. It's hard wanting a decent review but we have to keep supporting those that do it right.

Patriot(raises cup to the Wiz)

Edited, potentially after thumbsup:
I actually am looking forward to alders lake and hope it brings competition... just don't like any shady business.... be it Intel paying Shrout research for SSD reviews, Chiller hyperclocked cpu, Zen2 Turbo clocks or Nvidia review guides.

zlobbyImagine if we had a perfectly working software from even its first build? While this can work only on a theoretical level that has no practical use to us, I continue to hate M$ for their cheap and sloppy implementation of pretty much everything that they make.

I mean, nobody is perfect but does this mean that they should be THAT sloppy? Sadly, yes. And the root cause is that apart from a few (relative to numbers in the entire user base) geeks in the forums, Joe and Jane have zero clue what a cache is, let alone what $L3 is, or God forbid - that it's botched by M$. Regular folks are force fed whatever dung-ridden software M$ decide to, sadly not too tech-savvy to realize it.