ymbajaI’m wondering when the gaming industry will really start seeing a big impact. Sure there was an initial high spike from COVID and folks can run existing cards for a while, but I do wonder what nvidia/amd think is going to happen here. They are basically eating their cash cow to feed a piglet - albeit a large piglet. The gaming industry will only survive for so long and past a certain point will take years to recover - if at all.

on an unrelated note it’s interesting to see that we have reached a point where processes have become so complex that market competition is no longer an option. In years past we would have seen 30 upstarts all trying to sell their xyz knockoff cards. No longer…

But that doesn't mean that AMD/Nvidia should relaunch a previous generation cards in the time frame when historically gamers would be ready to get a brand new generation.

Gamers used to see at least reworked configurations, touched here and there architectures, even rebrands, call the shyttie thingie a RTX 4030 12GB, that would be fine.

Next year, expect GTX 1660 16GB. lol

ixiDunno, why would anyone even buy this... if the price is 150e, then yea, if more, dream on nvidia. Although desperate people will buy anything, sad.

Current pricing issues aside, why in the world would anyone list it for the same cost as the half-as-fast 1650? Even the 1660 ti is slower, and its launch MSRP was nearing 300.

Which reminds me, why is everyone kvetching about re-releasing Turing? They never retired Turing; 16-series are, however you may feel about them, current models.

80-watt HamsterWhich reminds me, why is everyone kvetching about re-releasing Turing? They never retired Turing; 16-series are, however you may feel about them, current models.

This is because the RTX 3000 didn't have anything below 3060, so because GTX 1660 and RTX 2060 were actually the same generation without and with ray-tracing...
Which are already 3-year-old cards, launched in January 2019, 3 years ago..

ARFThis is because the RTX 3000 didn't have anything below 3060, so because GTX 1660 and RTX 2060 were actually the same generation without and with ray-tracing...
Which are already 3-year-old cards, launched in January 2019, 3 years ago..

Right. But, to put it bluntly, so what?

Let's draw ourselves a slightly strained analogy. Say you're, IDK, John Deere. You've got several thousand pending orders for tractors; orders are coming in faster than you can fill them. Your current model production lines are at capacity; spinning up another factory that can produce them isn't in the cards. Then someone on your manufacturing team says, "Hey, we've got this factory that's running at half-capacity, and they've still got most of the tooling to make some of our older models. We can have units coming off the line in less than a year." Now, the tractors this plant will turn out aren't quite as powerful, and they've got control systems that are a couple of generations out of date. But producers are waiting money-in-hand, and in this (admittedly fictional) situation, you'd better believe that JD would start up that line. Assuming, of course, that sales projections warrant it.

That's basically the situation Nvidia finds itself in. It's frankly ludicrous not to expect them to take advantage of the current market conditions, and equally ludicrous to expect them not to do the exact thing they exist to do: Manufacture graphics and sell them for money, as many and as much of both as they can. Am I excited about the 2060 12GB? No. Do I think it will do anything to alleviate graphics supply/price problems in the short term? No; only a crypto crash can do that now. Would I buy one at its entirely fictional RRP? No. Would I buy one at around 200USD? You'd better believe it.

EDIT: spelling/grammar

ARFThis is because the RTX 3000 didn't have anything below 3060, so because GTX 1660 and RTX 2060 were actually the same generation without and with ray-tracing...
Which are already 3-year-old cards, launched in January 2019, 3 years ago..

Neither one of those cards is 3 years old.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_16_series
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_20_series

Gigabyte likely didn't revel pricing because they don't know themselves.

SlizzoGigabyte likely didn't revel pricing because they don't know themselves.

isn't it always nvidia or amd that reveal prices first?

YraggulNeither one of those cards is 3 years old.

They will be in a month time :D

RTX 2060 launched on the 7th of January 2019.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Specs | TechPowerUp GPU Database

GTX 1660 Ti launched on 22nd of February 2019.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Specs | TechPowerUp GPU Database

ARFThey will be in a month time :D

he's one of those people that decided to ignore 2020, so it never happened, so it's only 2 years

Bomby569isn't it always nvidia or amd that reveal prices first?

In this case it looks like it's on NVIDIA currently. Linus' video last night about the RTX 2060 12GB states that as of 4:00PM their time yesterday AIBs had yet to be informed of the pricing for the cards.

W1zzardSo far nobody is interested in sending out samples for this card

Those lazy bastards!

Probably too busy mining on them and calling it QA testing

Bomby569he's one of those people that decided to ignore 2020, so it never happened, so it's only 2 years

Or maybe they simply cannot calculate, and think 2021 minus 2019 is 2 :D

Okay, enough fighting.
2 years and 11 months, is close enough 3 years.

News posts in particular need to kept clean of trolling and fighting.

SlizzoIn this case it looks like it's on NVIDIA currently. Linus' video last night about the RTX 2060 12GB states that as of 4:00PM their time yesterday AIBs had yet to be informed of the pricing for the cards.

They don't care, it would be a new experience for them to actually price according to MSRP for once!