Monday, December 27th 2021
Intel Core i3-12100 and i3-12300 "Alder Lake" Quad-Core Chips Tested
Intel's upcoming Core i3-12100 and i3-12300 quad-core processors that form the value-end of the 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake-S" desktop processor family, pack an incredible mix of performance for their segment, which puts them ahead of six-core parts from the previous-generation, according to performance testing on the ChipHell forums. The two chips are based on the "H0" silicon, and feature four "Golden Cove" P-cores with HyperThreading enabled; no E-cores, and 12 MB of shared L3 cache. From what we can tell, the i3-12100 and i3-12300 are segment only by a 100 MHz maximum boost frequency value, and possibly at the iGPU-level.
Among the tests run by ChipHell are Cinebench R20, Cinebench R23, CPU-Z bench, CS:GO; and power/thermal testing using AIDA64. Right off the bat, we see the two chips flex their high IPC in the CPU-Z bench, scoring 687 points (i3-12100), and 702.5 points (i3-12300). An AMD "Zen 3" based quad-core chip, such as the OEM-only Ryzen 3 PRO 5350G, should score roughly 620 points, while the slowest "Rocket Lake" part, the i5-11400, only does 566 points. The multi-threaded test sees scores ranging between 3407 to 3482 points for the two.
CB R20 and R23 see the i3-12100 and i3-12300 top the performance charts in comparison to the Ryzen 3 5350G, posting 21-25% higher single-threaded scores in CB R20; and 22-25% in CB R23 single-thread. Both chips offer proportionately high multi-threaded performance compared to the 5350G. The i3-12300 ends up 17% slower in multi-threaded CB R23 than the six-core i5-11400, and 28% slower than the 5600G. Find these results and more, in the source links below.
Sources:
VideoCardz, ChipHell, 3DCenter.org, WCCFTech
Among the tests run by ChipHell are Cinebench R20, Cinebench R23, CPU-Z bench, CS:GO; and power/thermal testing using AIDA64. Right off the bat, we see the two chips flex their high IPC in the CPU-Z bench, scoring 687 points (i3-12100), and 702.5 points (i3-12300). An AMD "Zen 3" based quad-core chip, such as the OEM-only Ryzen 3 PRO 5350G, should score roughly 620 points, while the slowest "Rocket Lake" part, the i5-11400, only does 566 points. The multi-threaded test sees scores ranging between 3407 to 3482 points for the two.
97 Comments on Intel Core i3-12100 and i3-12300 "Alder Lake" Quad-Core Chips Tested
Never said there's no alternative. But you know. New platform new Ram? No?
I was referring to an earlier post about certain conclusion which I have but you went to tell something totally different. It is OK.
Maybe GN Steve should learn from this guy how to unlock the CPU PCI-E x16 capability on 12th gen ES chips ?
I trust Steve more. :)
The market is such that they have struck gold with such a shortage of everything GPU related.
If you expect Intel to sell their higher end GPUs at bargain prices, Think Illuminati, Coincidence - THINK AGAIN !
They may be marginally cheaper than AMD /Nvidia at best!
INTEL lurvvvvvvs $$$$$$ Dont blame them really ! Why would you, when you dont really need to at all!
Things may improve for Intel with CPUs without E-cores, and cheaper motherboard options that goes well with cheaper DDR4 memory since DDR5 is either ultra expensive or non-existent. We may see AMD starting to cut price then. I believe AMD is not cutting prices drastically now since it is obvious the CPUs are still selling well, and the cost of manufacturing these chips is not cheap (TSMC have increased prices). Assuming the retail chips are not selling well, they can always divert those resources to making high profit margin products like the EPYC lineup. Intel's current CPU lineup for corporate/ data center is still not competitive. I feel they are trying to make as much as they can with each release since competition is going to get very heated in the upcoming years.
www.jw.com.au/intel-core-i5-11400f-processor-502490
Intel Core i5 11400F $269.00 AUD
www.jw.com.au/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-processor-453761
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X $458.00 AUD
www.techpowerup.com/290116/intel-65-w-alder-lake-s-pricing-confirmed
1. Lack of competition - Intel recycled their Comet Lake chips to be used as the budget option. Compared to the Ryzen 3 3300X, the Comet Lake chip may perform just as well, but is no danger to the Ryzen 3 lineup
2. High fab cost - Zen 3 was launched in the same year as the start of COVID, so I believe the shortage then was already causing prices of fab to increase quite a lot. So instead of using perfectly usable singe CCX chip that will at least qualify as a 5600X, cutting it to 4 cores is going to be a waste when it comes to profit margin
3. In addition, I suspect the market for quad core desktop chip is shrinking, and most buyers tend to go for 6 cores, especially for the enthusiasts market. Also, they can always fill OEM orders with APUs where quad core option is available.There are, but there are 2 problems,
1. Very limited choices - Initially, I was very excited with ADL, so I started looking out for a MITX board that supports DDR4. The options are extremely limited, depending in the form factor. So if you are trying to get a MATX and ITX board, there are only a handful
2. Poor availability/ high price - Due to poor availability of DDR5, some early adopters have turned to DDR4 boards. As a result, I've seen inflated prices for boards support DDR4. Again if one is looking for a MATX or ITX board, you may not even find available stock. The Gigabyte Z690i board (poor review results aside) cost as much as the DDR5 version in my country, and it ain't cheap.
Cos your ,no buy Intel shits boring, no one's talking about these chips anymore here wtaf.
The price of two alternative chips is pretty irrelevant to This thread IMHO
Plus repeating yourself proved what?!.
And you killed any discussion of these actual parts, it went tangential as FF.
With gpus, they are the new kids on the block!
I can't see cheaper cpu prices translating in to cheaper gpu prices. With the current gpu shortages, Intel gpus would have to be really bad to be sold cheaply but so far reports seem to suggest they are going along very well for first up products.
But we will have to wait and see !
Now on topic as I said earlier wtaf are they using Cb20 and not 23?!.
I benched a 3350g full system built with monitor mouse keyboard and headset sold by AWD-it for 570£ UK pounds that scored over 4000 on CB23 so if cheap is what your after a 5600x or 11400 is not as cheap as you Can go and still game well, obviously the igpu isn't part of that statement though it did game ok once tweaked, ish.
I'm curious as to how I can help your comprehension skills.
Very hard to recommend AMD again, they've abandoned the most important market segment for long-term growth; budget general purpose CPUs that do everything.What makes you think Intel won't price their dGPUs to compete with AMD and Nvidia? If they perform like a 3070 they are going to be priced like a 3070.
Intel are a business, not a charity!