Tuesday, January 4th 2022
AMD CES 2022 Liveblog: Zen 3+, RDNA2 IGP, 6nm, RX 6500 XT, AM5, Zen 4 and More
Although physically away from the 2022 International CES, AMD is hosting a virtual press event to announce many new consumer products. The year's biggest tech-show allows AMD to talk about its latest, and next-generation architectures, the products it has in store for 2022, as well as introduce new technology. We expect the company to unveil "Zen 4" from a consumer perspective, its next-generation mobile processors, and much more. Stay tuned as we live-blog the event as it unfolds.
15:01 UTC: Straight away we see some big new model names:
15:02 UTC: CEO Dr Lisa Su takes centrestage.
15:02 UTC: AMD is everywhere:
15:03 UTC: This is going to be a PC-focused event.
15:03 UTC: AMD posts growth in the PC segment.
15:04 UTC: A trailer of what's to come.
15:05 UTC: AMD announcing next-gen Ryzen mobile processors, the Ryzen 6000 mobile processors
15:06 UTC: Zen 3+ CPU cores, RDNA2 graphics, 6 nm fabrication, PCIe Gen 4.
15:06 UTC: First performance claims. A massive 30% performance gain over Ryzen 5000 based on Zen 3:
15:07 UTC: Zen 3+ and 6 nm coming together for a 30% performance gain
15:08 UTC: Ryzen 6000 debuts Microsoft Pluton PSP.
15:08 UTC: 24 hours of use thanks to 6 nm
15:08 UTC: We'll finally know what the Zen 3+ secret sauce is about.
15:09 UTC: 15 new power management features that effectively blunt the hybrid core advantage?
15:10 UTC: P-core and E-core in the same core. Zen 3+ operates in E-core like power bands.
15:11 UTC: Astonishing performance gains
15:11 UTC: 30% lower power thanks to the new power management, and 6 nm node gains
15:12 UTC: AMD claims fastest iGPU crown, leveraging RDNA 2 graphics architectures: 768 stream processors, Ray tracing confirmed!
15:13 UTC: True 1080p AAA gaming. Smokes competition.
15:14 UTC: Beat MX450 dGPU.
15:14 UTC: First iGPU to leverage FidelityFX Super Resolution.
15:14 UTC: FSR enables iGPU-only 59 FPS with Far Cry 6 at 1080p!
15:16 UTC: Connectivity includes USB4 (40 Gbps), DisplayPort 2, DDR5, PCIe Gen 4, DDR5/LPDDR5 memory, and WiFi 6E/BT 5.2
15:18 UTC: Lisa Su introduces various OEMs integrating this chip, starting with the Lenovo ThinkPad Z
15:19 UTC: Over 200 gaming notebook designs in the works.
15:19 UTC: First notebooks this February
15:19 UTC: We now move on to updates to Radeon mobile GPUs
15:20 UTC: FreeSync continues to rock, with over 2000 display models
15:21 UTC: FSR now spans over 45 games:
15:22 UTC: Radeon RX 6000S, designed for low-power and compact gaming notebooks:
15:23 UTC: Even more models for the mainstream gaming
15:23 UTC: New GPU models:
15:24 UTC: Radeon RX 6500 XT for desktop, with 2.60 GHz engine clocks:
15:25 UTC: Performance claims for the RX 6500 XT:
15:25 UTC: Prices start at $199 in fantasy lands.
15:27 UTC: New generation Adrenalin software incoming.
15:28 UTC: FSR now works with every game. Radeon Super Resolution.
15:29 UTC: New Gen Adrenalin coming within Q1-2022. Privacy View is an interesting new feature, it uses eye-tracking to blur portions of the screen using shaders.
15:30 UTC: AMD finally catching up to Intel in co-engineering of products;
15:31 UTC: Smart Shift MAX, boosts performance by roping in the iGPU. Smart Shift ECO turns off your dGPU to stretch battery life.
15:33 UTC: Smart Access Graphics, 15% improved framerates when hybridizing 3D rendering.
15:34 UTC: Alienware AMD Advantage Edition:
15:35 UTC: ASUS Zephyrus G14 next-gen:
15:35 UTC: Ryzen 5000X3D based on Zen 3 with 3D Vertical Cache:
15:38 UTC: Here it is! Based on AM4
15:38 UTC: Stunning gaming performance gains, is AMD closing the gap with Intel
15:40 UTC: Core i9-12900K gaming performance matched!
15:40 UTC: Available from Spring
15:40 UTC: Zen 4 is the next big step, based on 5 nm
15:41 UTC: Here it is!
15:41 UTC: AM5 platform:
15:41 UTC: Halo Infinity shown runing on a Zen 4 protoype. Coming in H2-2022.
15:42 UTC: AMD's 2022 for the client segment:
15:43 UTC: That's all, folks!
The full AMD presentation decks are below, Ryzen processors first, then Radeon:
15:03 UTC: AMD posts growth in the PC segment.
15:06 UTC: First performance claims. A massive 30% performance gain over Ryzen 5000 based on Zen 3:
15:09 UTC: 15 new power management features that effectively blunt the hybrid core advantage?
15:11 UTC: Astonishing performance gains
15:14 UTC: First iGPU to leverage FidelityFX Super Resolution.
15:14 UTC: FSR enables iGPU-only 59 FPS with Far Cry 6 at 1080p!
15:19 UTC: We now move on to updates to Radeon mobile GPUs
15:20 UTC: FreeSync continues to rock, with over 2000 display models
15:21 UTC: FSR now spans over 45 games:
15:28 UTC: FSR now works with every game. Radeon Super Resolution.
15:40 UTC: Available from Spring
15:40 UTC: Zen 4 is the next big step, based on 5 nm
15:41 UTC: Here it is!
15:42 UTC: AMD's 2022 for the client segment:
The full AMD presentation decks are below, Ryzen processors first, then Radeon:
66 Comments on AMD CES 2022 Liveblog: Zen 3+, RDNA2 IGP, 6nm, RX 6500 XT, AM5, Zen 4 and More
If Zen 4 was expected in 2023 I'm pretty sure we would have seen more Zen 3D variants, but right now it doesn't make sense.
They are selling trash and there is not enough of it for all the models.
Do you think they just keep remaking the die's for every SKU?
Amd has also separate dies depending on the product.
So don't lol at me next time and update your knowledge.
lol at you. Rotflol at you.
Every time there is a trade show some companies budget for trolls to troll, but we ain’t got non bridge here pal. So maybe move along eh?
which also means full encoding support (previous wrong info).- read edit belowThe performance of 6500 XT is right around 5500 XT which seems bad for the rumored power consumption, but it makes sense because the clocks are high. At least its much cheaper than the RTX 3050 @ ripoff $249, but still ... I could get the 5500 XT 8 GB for less and I now deeply regret not buying it. I guess my potato GPU will have to hold out for one more year :cry:
/edit: it seems the presenter was wrong (source). No H265/HEVC encode or AV1 Decode support for the 6500 XT (see below) :confused:
Somehow AMD has forgotten to actually improve the perf/$ on anything they have made this gen, absent the 6800xt which didnt really have anything to compare to.
And if the answer is gaming performance, why go 16 cores to begin with :)
Intel has always had server counterparts for the desktop CPU's. This doesn't mean that it holds true for EVERY server CPU tho, as some server CPU's wouldn't make sense as a desktop variant.
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/codename/192985/products-formerly-rocket-lake.html#@nofilter
Same goes for Nvidia.
videocardz.net/gpu/nvidia-ga102
Everything else... Meh. At least for me. Won't be able to buy those 6500XTs for $200 anyway
24 hour on battery claim is curious.
The plan to launch Zen3D is nothing new, the question was how long the wait for Zen4 would be after that. If AMD would launch 4 different Zen3D in March we'd know that Zen4 was in trouble.
I was upset we didn't get a 6900XTS, but I guess the XTXH chips are technically that.
I bought Intel stocks just before Alder Lake's launch expecting a Ryzen style comeback and dumped all of them this week, as I don't see where Intel are going with their nonsense -- constantly talking smack ("AMD is over", "Intel is back", blah blah blah) whilst delivering flop after flop. The only time Intel even gets close to being decent is after their previous gen CPUs hit EOL and get put on fire sales by retailers. To say Intel's current architecture is a disaster is the understatement of the century -- basically Rocket Lake with minor tweaks and some very useless Atom cores duct-taped to it to massage power consumption numbers.
Intel were already doubling Ryzen 5000's power consumption numbers for roughly the same performance with Alder Lake (launched just a few months ago). Now that AMD reduced their power consumption supposedly by another 30% and increasing performance by double digit percentages, Intel are dead in the water. DDR5 is unobtanium currently due to being scalped (making Intel's platform and pricing advantage mostly useless) and AMD already said the CPU launch after Zen 4 will have its own efficiency cores also built in (whilst their current performance cores are already beating Intel in performance and energy consumption massively). By the time Intel wake up and respond with their next energy-guzzling architecture 9 months or so from now, we will probably have energy prices double that of today -- making Ryzen look even better and Zen 4 will easily drive their performance up even further by 40%+ from current Zen 3D CPUs.
Don't even get me started on their vaporware Alchemist GPUs -- constantly comparing themselves to GPUs that are multiple generations old (if I wanted GTX 1650 level performance, I would've bought it 3 years ago). Their track record for driver support -- even for current iGPUs with existing huge market share, is an even bigger joke and doesn't inspire any confidence (performance even in mainstream apps is a disaster and completely broken with artifacts & glitches all over the place). Until I see Intel backing up their smack talk with products worth a damn -- I'm hopping off their hype train...