Thursday, January 6th 2022
AMD Socket AM5 a "Long-lived Platform": CEO
AMD is designing its upcoming Socket AM5 platform to be a "long-lived platform," not unlike AM4. CEO Dr Lisa Su, responding to a question on the longevity of AM5, by Paul Alcorn from Tom's Hardware, said that she's very happy with AM4 being the company's long-lived desktop socket; and while she doesn't have an exact number of years to share, one could expect AM5 to be a "long-lived platform" of a similar kind.
AMD Socket AM4 was debuted alongside the company's very first Ryzen processors, in March 2017. It has remained AMD's mainstream desktop socket for close to five years; and AMD continues to launch new products for the socket. Even in 2022, the company is expected to give the socket its swansong, with the Ryzen 5000X3D processors. AM4 was designed keeping in mind dual-channel DDR4 and up to 28 lanes of PCIe Gen 3 (later Gen 4) in mind. The change to Socket AM5 is driven by next-generation I/O, namely DDR5 memory (four 40-bit channels), and PCIe Gen 5."AMD committed to the AM4 platform, the AM4 socket for quite a long time. Can you guys give us any idea of how long you will stick with AM5?," asked Paul Alcorn, to which Dr Su responded: "Well, we've been extremely pleased with how AM4 has evolved….we said we would keep that socket for a long time and we have. We continue to believe that it has been good for the community and frankly, it's been good for us as well. As we bring things along, it was time to do a socket transition for the new I/O in the new technology, but I think strategy-wise, it should be similar. I don't have an exact number of years but I would say that you should expect that AM5 will be a long-lived platform as AM4 has been. I think we're expecting AM4 to stay in the marketplace for quite some years and it will be sort of an overlapping type of thing."
Source:
PC World
AMD Socket AM4 was debuted alongside the company's very first Ryzen processors, in March 2017. It has remained AMD's mainstream desktop socket for close to five years; and AMD continues to launch new products for the socket. Even in 2022, the company is expected to give the socket its swansong, with the Ryzen 5000X3D processors. AM4 was designed keeping in mind dual-channel DDR4 and up to 28 lanes of PCIe Gen 3 (later Gen 4) in mind. The change to Socket AM5 is driven by next-generation I/O, namely DDR5 memory (four 40-bit channels), and PCIe Gen 5."AMD committed to the AM4 platform, the AM4 socket for quite a long time. Can you guys give us any idea of how long you will stick with AM5?," asked Paul Alcorn, to which Dr Su responded: "Well, we've been extremely pleased with how AM4 has evolved….we said we would keep that socket for a long time and we have. We continue to believe that it has been good for the community and frankly, it's been good for us as well. As we bring things along, it was time to do a socket transition for the new I/O in the new technology, but I think strategy-wise, it should be similar. I don't have an exact number of years but I would say that you should expect that AM5 will be a long-lived platform as AM4 has been. I think we're expecting AM4 to stay in the marketplace for quite some years and it will be sort of an overlapping type of thing."
68 Comments on AMD Socket AM5 a "Long-lived Platform": CEO
Slightly better than Intel but pretty much lipstick on a very similar pig
Yet somehow they have locked support and are all playing a game of blame the other one
wccftech.com/gigabyte-silently-adds-ryzen-5000-zen-3-ryzen-4000-zen-2-cpu-support-on-a320-motherboards/
edit: speak of the devil
www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-exploring-ryzen-5000-support-on-300-series
Be interesting if I can get one of the newer setups, looking forward to the release :)
And can still get within debatable leadership position against Intel's best Latest platform, near EOL after five years well I would be surprised.
...not to wear long sleves...
...not to do it, make my brother do it. Because my hands shake. And I only decided on this option after the other two failed with two dead boards.
3rd Gen Ryzen™ Threadripper™ processors will work on AMD TRX40 motherboards, the first high-end desktop platform in the world that is ready for bleeding edge PCIe® 4.0 connectivity. This powerful, scalable, future-proof2 platform offers the most I/O and expansion you can get on desktop processor, for serious multi-GPU and NVMe arrays.3
Following that "future-proof" asterisk into the footnotes:
- Statement of “future-proof” refers to support of current and upcoming technology standards including 14nm FinFET process technology, DirectX®12 and Vulkan™ API support, new I/O technology including DDR4, USB 3.1 Gen 2, and NVMe, and experiences such as VR. “Future-proof” statement is not meant to serve as a warranty or indicate that users will never have to upgrade their graphics technology again. Support of current and upcoming technology standards described above has the potential to reduce frequency of CPU upgrades for some users. GD-104
So there you go, they intended to reduce the frequency of CPU upgrades, they sure did, reduced it to zero by offering none.I really do not trust them any more and may call the ( included their CEO ) Liars!
Anyone remember how much time does the first Threadripper platform last ?
Anyone owns a third generation Threadripper motherboard ?
Where is your Long Lived Platform now ?
Guess who made a serious investment on the first Threadripper platform dreaming of a near AM4 long lasting purchase ?
Of course me.
But I really know I was not the only one.
Marketing is always ahead of customer commitment.
Yay! (not!) Motherboards with bad socket pins could be flooding PC shops every year now!
Why not ask them what hell their doing with TRX40 and WRX80 sockets?:confused:
I like AMD's approach to maximising the socket lifespan in a sense that if you are not looking for cutting edge technology like faster PCI-E and M2 slots, then it allows people to upgrade some years down the road, assuming the motherboard manufacturer will release a BIOS for it. It is not perfect, but I prefer this over Intel's annual or bi-annual upgrade cycle. Even if there are significant improvements in technology, people should decide if they need it before getting a new board. People like me don't go for cutting edge motherboards, i.e. I am using a B460 board, and there is little reason to upgrade to a new chipset. At the budget segment, you tend to get the same features year on year.