Mind Factory has the RX6800 still going fo upto 1079 euros0 ($1,685.15NZD) that's still way over what I paid for mine 2 years ago ($1295NZD/ 797.98euro) so yeah still a long way to go before prices become interesting for Mid/high end gear

And who cares about low end crap most people don't want it for a starter and are only buying because they're forced to make massive compromise on what tier of GPU they can afford or they're getting shovelled it via prebuilt shitstems

Hi,
Not my sweet spot.

TheoneandonlyMrKRecord low still not low enough for me.

I call this news announcement bullchitlins

Hi,
Yeah there's a card game named that :laugh:

Sweet spot for me would be below MSRP until then no dice.

seth1911Low ? a 3050 is still at 380€.
Normaly a X50 was since the GTS 250 till GTX 1050 between 150 and 220 € :laugh:

GT 1030 cost me £30 brand new. :)

LMK when I can get an RX 6800/RTX 3070 for like $400.

sam_86314LMK when I can get an RX 6800/RTX 3070 for like $400.

Alrighty, see you in your next life

I remember all of us balking at the crazy high MSRP of the 30 series... Good times. You can't even get a used card at MSRP. Hell if you had a 1660 Ti, used would still sell for above MSRP of 3 years ago lol

This is wccftech sort of clickbait headline. Next fuel will drop $5 a barrel and we'll be told it's a record low, yeah for that particular day maybe.

AthloniteAnd who cares about low end crap most people don't want it for a starter and are only buying because they're forced to make massive compromise on what tier of GPU they can afford or they're getting shovelled it via prebuilt shitstems

That's some A-grade PCMR elitist B.S. right there. Some people (yours truly included) aren't keen on spending half or more the cost of a system on graphics. Not everybody's miffed if they can't play the newest games at 4K60 ultra or whatever.

So its magically affordable when they are all still almost double the prices on my local shops.

Record lows, my AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA when used 6GB 1060s now are still at prices of a new 1660 Super in 2019.

This is a deliberate troll right?

indeed an improvement; you don't need to sell both your kidneys only one...

Why would you run the names of the retailers through Google Translate like that. Do not do it, it only detracts from being able to verify the data and also removes its ability to inform people with access to said retailers and adds nothing.

TheoneandonlyMrKRecord low still not low enough for me.

Whole article is fake news. "Record low" ha!

I think the article should clarify that this “record low” is for the past 2 years. If we look at the last few generations for comparison, this is actually still record high price. Article is more like trying to convince people that this is a good time to buy GPUs. And indeed there is still a strong demand, particularly for Nvidia cards.

Having said that, I did noticed the price drop in my country and above all, the much better availability. AMD and Nvidia are quick to tell us that supply is “getting better”, though what they did not tell us is that supply is better because there are less miners buying up GPUs in bulk from their back door.

I guess this is just the way things will always be from now on as far as GPUs are concerned.

Crazy fluctuations and/or shortages due to price vs. supply vs. demand vs. miners vs. gamers vs. Whatever vs. Whatever vs. Whatever.

Bottom line.

Forget MSRP. That's a concept of the past.

I hope that Nvidia and AMD learn from this and announce new hardware with realistic MSRPs taking into consideration that they'll never actually reach unrealistic prices.

Price comes down a bit and it seems like there are a few more "in stock" options online... This is always when new stuff is on the horizon(40 series now). Nothing new.

And to think some people will still go out and buy 3090Ti (if and when of course). :roll:

Hi,
With current conflicts this slight price reduction will be short lived if not already evaporated.
Gas has now doubled from two years ago and still going up.

High priorities are not gpu related anymore for many I expect :laugh:

There was a time when entry level was 100-150€ and high-tier was 300-500€...

ThrashZoneHi,
With current conflicts this slight price reduction will be short lived if not already evaporated.
Gas has now doubled from two years ago and still going up.

High priorities are not gpu related anymore for many I expect :laugh:

There's no reason why this conflict should meaningfully affect silicon production or prices. Ukraine does supply some noble gases used for chip production, but there are other sources. This is fundamentally incomparable to the effects on gas prices from one of the biggest oil & gas producers in the world facing massive economic sanctions. One has a direct causal link, the other not.

ValantarThere's no reason why this conflict should meaningfully affect silicon production or prices. Ukraine does supply some noble gases used for chip production, but there are other sources. This is fundamentally incomparable to the effects on gas prices from one of the biggest oil & gas producers in the world facing massive economic sanctions. One has a direct causal link, the other not.

Hi,
Think everyone has delivery issues way before this invasion crap started so adding more expense isn't going to help prices go down.

GundemI guess this is just the way things will always be from now on as far as GPUs are concerned.

Crazy fluctuations and/or shortages due to price vs. supply vs. demand vs. miners vs. gamers vs. Whatever vs. Whatever vs. Whatever.

Bottom line.

Forget MSRP. That's a concept of the past.

I hope that Nvidia and AMD learn from this and announce new hardware with realistic MSRPs taking into consideration that they'll never actually reach unrealistic prices.

Price comes down a bit and it seems like there are a few more "in stock" options online... This is always when new stuff is on the horizon(40 series now). Nothing new.

And to think some people will still go out and buy 3090Ti (if and when of course). :roll:

This sentiment pops up frequently, but I'm not convinced it's the case. The graphics market being bananas right now doesn't make GPUs exempt from the general rules of manufactured products. Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (or sometimes Recommended Retail Price) exists because the manufacturer has run the numbers on manufacturing and supply chain costs against market research and come up with a number that they think will result in the target number of sales. This helps everyone on the chain negotiate or set prices at an "appropriate" level.

Sometimes, though, a market goes sideways. Toilet paper (in the US) at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. The new Ford Bronco, among numerous other examples from the car world. Granted, there isn't an MSRP for toiled paper. But the point is, prices tend to return to baseline. Bogroll's back in line with other paper products. Hot vehicles often end up being sold at a discount a few model years later once the launch spike in demand dries out. Not that long ago, folks were lamenting that PC gaming was dead or dying (they still are, but for different reasons). Stuff changes. Crypto will either settle, shift or bust. Demand will become sated, and/or supply will catch up with it. Could take another year, could take five. I'll admit the possibility exists that the good times are over, and that we won't see capable cards at the USD200 price point again. But it's easy to make the mistake of thinking that since a situation's been around for too long, that it'll be that way forever.

progsteThere was a time when entry level was 100-150€ and high-tier was 300-500€...

Good times, good times...

ValantarThere's no reason why this conflict should meaningfully affect silicon production or prices. Ukraine does supply some noble gases used for chip production, but there are other sources. This is fundamentally incomparable to the effects on gas prices from one of the biggest oil & gas producers in the world facing massive economic sanctions. One has a direct causal link, the other not.

Direct links or not, the markets seem as jittery as they've been in years, so ripple effects will be even less predictable, IMO. Plus, fuel prices push everything else up, sometimes disproportionately. But I hope you're right; however, I'm personally more concerned about the effects on the population of Ukraine and the larger geopolitical fallout than the IC market. I suppose we're not here to talk about that, though.

80-watt HamsterThis sentiment pops up frequently, but I'm not convinced it's the case. The graphics market being bananas right now doesn't make GPUs exempt from the general rules of manufactured products. Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (or sometimes Recommended Retail Price) exists because the manufacturer has run the numbers on manufacturing and supply chain costs against market research and come up with a number that they think will result in the target number of sales. This helps everyone on the chain negotiate or set prices at an "appropriate" level.

Sometimes, though, a market goes sideways. Toilet paper (in the US) at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. The new Ford Bronco, among numerous other examples from the car world. Granted, there isn't an MSRP for toiled paper. But the point is, prices tend to return to baseline. Bogroll's back in line with other paper products. Hot vehicles often end up being sold at a discount a few model years later once the launch spike in demand dries out. Not that long ago, folks were lamenting that PC gaming was dead or dying (they still are, but for different reasons). Stuff changes. Crypto will either settle, shift or bust. Demand will become sated, and/or supply will catch up with it. Could take another year, could take five. I'll admit the possibility exists that the good times are over, and that we won't see capable cards at the USD200 price point again. But it's easy to make the mistake of thinking that since a situation's been around for too long, that it'll be that way forever.



Good times, good times...



Direct links or not, the markets seem as jittery as they've been in years, so ripple effects will be even less predictable, IMO. Plus, fuel prices push everything else up, sometimes disproportionately. But I hope you're right; however, I'm personally more concerned about the effects on the population of Ukraine and the larger geopolitical fallout than the IC market. I suppose we're not here to talk about that, though.

Man, I hope you're right. I know I'm guilty of being more on the negative side.

80-watt HamsterThis sentiment pops up frequently, but I'm not convinced it's the case. The graphics market being bananas right now doesn't make GPUs exempt from the general rules of manufactured products. Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (or sometimes Recommended Retail Price) exists because the manufacturer has run the numbers on manufacturing and supply chain costs against market research and come up with a number that they think will result in the target number of sales. This helps everyone on the chain negotiate or set prices at an "appropriate" level.

Sometimes, though, a market goes sideways. Toilet paper (in the US) at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. The new Ford Bronco, among numerous other examples from the car world. Granted, there isn't an MSRP for toiled paper. But the point is, prices tend to return to baseline. Bogroll's back in line with other paper products. Hot vehicles often end up being sold at a discount a few model years later once the launch spike in demand dries out. Not that long ago, folks were lamenting that PC gaming was dead or dying (they still are, but for different reasons). Stuff changes. Crypto will either settle, shift or bust. Demand will become sated, and/or supply will catch up with it. Could take another year, could take five. I'll admit the possibility exists that the good times are over, and that we won't see capable cards at the USD200 price point again. But it's easy to make the mistake of thinking that since a situation's been around for too long, that it'll be that way forever.



Good times, good times...



Direct links or not, the markets seem as jittery as they've been in years, so ripple effects will be even less predictable, IMO. Plus, fuel prices push everything else up, sometimes disproportionately. But I hope you're right; however, I'm personally more concerned about the effects on the population of Ukraine and the larger geopolitical fallout than the IC market. I suppose we're not here to talk about that, though.

Agreed. Potential effects on IC production and shipping aren't even a blip on the map of concerns from this crap. You're right that market instability in general can affect it, but that's also very unpredictable - and historically, tech is relatively stable in the face of things like these simply due to consistent demand. That doesn't mean immune, but less likely to see major effects.

ThrashZoneHi,
Think everyone has delivery issues way before this invasion crap started so adding more expense isn't going to help prices go down.

Fuel prices don't really affect shipping costs that much, as the scale of the ships and the amounts of cargo they carry makes them very cheap to run - the container shortage and delays are much more impactful than a fuel price hike in this regard. It might have some effect, but not a massive one, and likely not a noticeable one with the current inflated price levels. Remember, a single shipping container can fit thousands of GPUs (and likely tens of thousands of CPUs), and a single shipping vessel carries hundreds if not thousands of containers. Divided across this, you would need a massive spike in fuel prices for unit prices to be meaningfully affected.


What's more likely IMO is for distributors and others to capitalize on insecurity by hiking prices. But that wouldn't be caused by the war, that would be caused by greed and opportunism.