That's nice! I was mulling going Alder Lake (probably an i5 12400 from Microcenter) + DDR4 MB, simply because my B350 was not supported for the 5600G, and the replacement cost would be rather similar (actually adventageous, given how few discounts there are for the 5600G). I guess I'll sit and wait on this one, and see if a 5600G is worth picking up to mostly replace a 3400G.

They kept their promise. :toast:

jeremyshawThat's nice! I was mulling going Alder Lake (probably an i5 12400 from Microcenter) + DDR4 MB, simply because my B350 was not supported for the 5600G, and the replacement cost would be rather similar (actually adventageous, given how few discounts there are for the 5600G). I guess I'll sit and wait on this one, and see if a 5600G is worth picking up to mostly replace a 3400G.

Most definitely, you'll get two cores and four threads more and a huge IPC improvement over your current Zen+ based 3400G.

Very good!

Dont upgrade unless you buying a 5000 series chip, when I upgraded my b450 ready for my 5600g, the 2600x features were mostly gutted from the bios, I assume the bios chips arent big enough to be fully featured across all gens.

chrcolukDont upgrade unless you buying a 5000 series chip, when I upgraded my b450 ready for my 5600g, the 2600x features were mostly gutted from the bios, I assume the bios chips arent big enough to be fully featured across all gens.

I remember having something similar when I had a 2600 & MSI X470 Gaming Plus few years ago when I updated to a bios which had 3000 series support.

I take this to mean that mobo makers aren't concerned any more about pushing product, given AM4 is technically now in its twilight years, and probably also ended production on older board models long enough that there aren't much left to "cannibalize" sales off newer equivalents.

It's also an easy way to regain some favor with burned crowds.

Excellent! Hopefully, I'll be able to get a cheap 5000-series APU for the Asus B350M board I'm planning to put in my home-made fileserver.

I hate the official AMD table so much. This is pretty confusing to read at first. Should've just use a dot or tick mark instead of a whole line.

Now after 6 Years they need to be something that not everyone goes to intel with a new socket.

But im sure the most 300 Chipset useres are by newer AMD Chipset or on Intel.

Good news

You're telling me this now!? Now that I've bought all new boards for an upgrade.... <steam coming out of ears>

Thanks AMD... thanks.

Should've done it earlier. This is just a response to stiff competition. AMD deserves no praise here.

Good news.

CutechriShould've done it earlier. This is just a response to stiff competition. AMD deserves no praise here.

At least their same socket CPUs are compatible practically no matter the platform. A520/B550 being the difference but actually who cares about that, if you have a B550 board, you'll probably not going to stick the old Zen/Zen+ CPU to that.

CutechriShould've done it earlier. This is just a response to stiff competition. AMD deserves no praise here.

Couldn't agree more. There was nothing that prevented them from making the same move with the Ryzen 5000 launch.

chrcolukDont upgrade unless you buying a 5000 series chip, when I upgraded my b450 ready for my 5600g, the 2600x features were mostly gutted from the bios, I assume the bios chips arent big enough to be fully featured across all gens.

This will be a problem on second hand market :laugh:

But why cant a 16MB (128Mb) Chip dont handle a few CPU, easy because the great gamor GUI in the UEFI.
On socket 775 it wasnt a problem with a 512KB (4Mb) to support even more CPU.

To those who argued with me - and others - over time claiming that it was ok for 300 mobo’s to not support series 3000 and 5000 because ‘not fit for purpose’ I say ‘hello!’

It's good to see an upgrade path for people on older AM4 motherboards still. Not everyone needs, or has the means to, replace their rig with every new CPU generation. Zen 1 to Zen 3 (or tweaked Zen 2) is huge improvement, even if it comes late in the platform's life cycle.

seth1911This will be a problem on second hand market :laugh:

But why cant a 16MB (128Mb) Chip dont handle a few CPU, easy because the great gamor GUI in the UEFI.
On socket 775 it wasnt a problem with a 512KB (4Mb) to support even more CPU.

It's nothing to do with the GUI, and everything to do with how AGESA is packaged. It's pretty hard to take apart and just implement microcode vs Intel.

CutechriShould've done it earlier. This is just a response to stiff competition. AMD deserves no praise here.

What, you didnt appreciate AMD selling products on a promise they refused to fulfill for 2 years until significant backlash forced their hand?

MaenadFINAt least their same socket CPUs are compatible practically no matter the platform.

Why does it matter if the socket is the same if the CPUs are not compatible with older models? If they dont makes things backwards compatible with older platforms then its jsut a slap across the face, which AMD is only just now fixing.

MaenadFINA520/B550 being the difference but actually who cares about that, if you have a B550 board, you'll probably not going to stick the old Zen/Zen+ CPU to that.

People were pissed that ryzen 3000/5000 wasnt compaible with the 300 series chipsets, not the other way around.

TechLurkerI take this to mean that mobo makers aren't concerned any more about pushing product, given AM4 is technically now in its twilight years, and probably also ended production on older board models long enough that there aren't much left to "cannibalize" sales off newer equivalents.

It's also an easy way to regain some favor with burned crowds.

It's not up to mobo makers. Some, like asrock, have been pushing AMD for supported microcode for several years, and resorted to their own beta code in its place.

The proper take here is AMD finally bending to pressure from the community to live up to AM4's original promise, which AMD has ignored up to this point.

TheinsanegamerNThe proper take here is AMD finally bending to pressure from the community to live up to AM4's original promise, which AMD has ignored up to this point.

Not pressure from the community, but pressure from Intel, currently if you have to buy a new motherboard Alder Lake is likely the better option. AMD is just making upgrading a better option now that buying a new motherboard would likely push people towards Intel.

I wonder if this has anything to do with all of the lower end Ryzen 5000 CPUs that AMD is about to launch? This would open up the market by adding 300 series chipset users as potential upgraders.

Imagine creating value for your loyal customers when you could be preparing to fleece them with a brand new motherboard socket requirement(x670) and new CPU(Ryzen 7000). This is smart on so many different levels. Especially considering how many people will be potentially trading out there current setup and unloading used parts. Nice cheap drop in upgrade for those of us who don't chase the Unicorn anymore.

I honestly hope this pushes Intel to start supporting the same socket for more than 2 generations of processors. Wishful thinking I realize.

I am NOT a Lisa Su Fan at all as she repeatedly pulling this crap during her tenure. There is nothing nice about this at all. I already knew back then when I was using Newer AMD CPU's could run on on my X370 motherboard. They did this to absolutely make sure they could sell the 500 series of chipsets. Now that the newer series is coming close AMD is NOW giving the option so they can continue to sell their 500 series of CPU's.

This is the same nonsense going on with the 5800X3D. This is not out of their kindness of their hearts. IMHO they are making sure that you purchase the 5800X3d at a certain performance level. so it will not won't cannibalize 500 and 600 series CPU's in the near future.

This is also the same nonsense saying that you can't run windows 7 on newer hardware or Micro$haft's 2.0TPM. This pigeon holed performance unless you have to pay for something else. I've been Running Windows 7 for many years on so called unsupportable hardware. Planned performance obsolescence in order to force people to buy the new "shiny" is total BS.

In ending AMD is NOT the good guy for the average person. They are and at times become worse than their competition. This is not done out of the Kindness of the Hearts of AMD.

But it is telling that IMHO there are issues that are arising against Intel which IMHO is one of decisions they are doing this.