Friday, April 1st 2022

Intel Seemingly Reveal Specs of Arc A780 Desktop GPU in Arc Control Video

Although it hasn't been verified, it would appear that Intel might have let slip some details of its upcoming Arc A780 desktop GPU in a video where the company was showing off its Arc Control graphics card control and monitoring software. For a brief second or two, the Live Performance Monitoring part of Arc Control was shown in the video, displaying GPU and VRAM clocks for one of its upcoming GPUs, alongside the GPU power of the same card. As to the exact product, that is now being discussed on the internet, but the current consensus based on all the specs, is that it could be the Arc A780.

The reasoning behind this, is that the Arc A350M, which could in theory boost to 2,250 MHz, doesn't meet the listed GPU power of 175 W, nor does the much slower clocked Arc A770M mobile part. The VRAM clock at 1093 MHz also suggests an effective memory throughput of 17.5 Gbps, which is faster than the fastest mobile GPU according to the specs available so far. It also means that Intel is going for high-performance memory on its high-end parts, as this GPU has higher memory bandwidth than a GeForce RTX 3070, which sits at 14 Gbps. It's also possible that we're looking at a development card here and that these specs won't make it into a final product, so we'll just have to wait until this summer to see what Intel has in store for us.
Sources: YouTube, via VideoCardz
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20 Comments on Intel Seemingly Reveal Specs of Arc A780 Desktop GPU in Arc Control Video

#1
Unregistered
GPU clock 2250MHz seems ok, the mem clock seems a bit low though.

Intel arc control, i guess is their proggy to manage these GPUs
#2
ChosenName
Interesting timing for this article, in the UK at least....
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#3
Totally
TiggerGPU clock 2250MHz seems ok, the mem clock seems a bit low though.
May be using gddr6x, there's an effective vram freq tile that got cut off that would have told us for sure.
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#4
AusWolf
TiggerGPU clock 2250MHz seems ok, the mem clock seems a bit low though.
I remember reading about 2200 MHz core and 16 Gbps memory somewhere. With this in mind, these specs seem OK to me.

Though I'm keeping my "wait and see" approach, as clock speeds don't mean anything on their own. It's like comparing cars by how high their engines can rev.
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#5
DeathtoGnomes
ahh a leak thats not supposed to be called a leak, seemingly.o_O
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#6
AusWolf
DeathtoGnomesahh a leak thats not supposed to be called a leak, seemingly.o_O
It's just media terminology nowadays. 20-30 years ago, news like this used to be called "announcements" or "demos" or simply just "news". Nowadays, everything is a leak. I guess it sounds better for some people.
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#7
DeathtoGnomes
AusWolfIt's just media terminology nowadays. 20-30 years ago, news like this used to be called "announcements" or "demos" or simply just "news". Nowadays, everything is a leak. I guess it sounds better for some people.
Yea, most take such releases at Holy Fact, so specific wording is important or risk getting called liars and cheats. :roll:
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#8
Chrispy_
I've been away for a week - does Intel now have an official launch date (to miss) for desktop GPUs yet, or is this yet more noise in the neverending failure of Intel to actually release a desktop GPU to market?
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#9
AusWolf
Chrispy_I've been away for a week - does Intel now have an official launch date (to miss) for desktop GPUs yet, or is this yet more noise in the neverending failure of Intel to actually release a desktop GPU to market?
As far as I know, it's dated to around June-July. I'm not sure when this was announced, though.
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#10
chstamos
Chrispy_I've been away for a week - does Intel now have an official launch date (to miss) for desktop GPUs yet, or is this yet more noise in the neverending failure of Intel to actually release a desktop GPU to market?
It's going perfectly according to schedule. "A few months from now", as it has been for the past few semesters. :p
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#11
TheLostSwede
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ChosenNameInteresting timing for this article, in the UK at least....
Not an April fools.
DeathtoGnomesahh a leak thats not supposed to be called a leak, seemingly.o_O
Well, this one Intel clearly "leaked" themselves...
Chrispy_I've been away for a week - does Intel now have an official launch date (to miss) for desktop GPUs yet, or is this yet more noise in the neverending failure of Intel to actually release a desktop GPU to market?
Depends on how specific "date" is to you.
www.techpowerup.com/293464/intel-teases-arc-desktop-graphics-card
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#12
AusWolf
Besides the clocks and all, has anyone noticed that the GPU is running under 1 V within a 175-ish W power envelope? If it is really a 3070 contender like initial news from Intel claimed it to be, then I think we're looking forward to something sweet.
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#13
ppn
has to be a Loveless contender. 4060 200mm2 64 rop and 12GB.
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#14
Chrispy_
Summer 2022 means a paper-launch on the 22nd September, gotchya.

I don't want to be so pessimistic but after so many delays I'd be amazed if they even make that; Intel have been pushing back their dates by about 10 months for every year that passes for what seems like an eternity. Intel have been hyping their discrete graphics since 2018, we were expecting a 2019 announcement after Raja's twitter claims that it was a GTX1060 competitor that slipped to a 2020 CES reveal of "coming soon".

It'll only be four years late if it makes it to market this year.
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#15
Nater
Really not going to matter how fast or slow the cards are, it's all about pricing and availability. Bring em' on I say, more the merrier. Let the normies buy these all up so we can get better pricing/selection on what us nerds want.
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#16
AusWolf
Chrispy_Summer 2022 means a paper-launch on the 22nd September, gotchya.

I don't want to be so pessimistic but after so many delays I'd be amazed if they even make that; Intel have been pushing back their dates by about 10 months for every year that passes for what seems like an eternity. Intel have been hyping their discrete graphics since 2018, we were expecting a 2019 announcement after Raja's twitter claims that it was a GTX1060 competitor that slipped to a 2020 CES reveal of "coming soon".

It'll only be four years late if it makes it to market this year.
After devoting so much resource to the project, they can't afford to release a product that won't sell. I think it's only understandable that they want to perfect it as much as possible to recoup the costs. It might as well be the Witcher of graphics cards, that got delayed year after year for the ultimate experience... or another AMD FX. We'll see.

On a personal note, I'd also much rather see a good product later than a crappy one now. For now, I'm happy with my RTX 2070, but my upgrade paths are only made up of 300+ W cards which I don't intend to upgrade my otherwise flawless PSU for. Nvidia and AMD doesn't seem to give a damn about efficiency (or PSU longevity) nowadays, and while also being skeptical, I secretly hope that Intel will bring back some normality in this sense - which isn't totally unimaginable looking at the 175 W figure in the pictures.
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#17
Jism
I have a feeling the whole Intel ARC GPU attempt is going to be let down.
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#18
Just Some Noise
Why would ARC be a let down? Even if it does not compete at the enthusiast level market right now, it will be better to have more competitors in the gpu space.

And as a Linux guy i atleast appreciate that Intel gives open source drivers, unlike Nvidia.....
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#19
watzupken
AusWolfAfter devoting so much resource to the project, they can't afford to release a product that won't sell. I think it's only understandable that they want to perfect it as much as possible to recoup the costs. It might as well be the Witcher of graphics cards, that got delayed year after year for the ultimate experience... or another AMD FX. We'll see.

On a personal note, I'd also much rather see a good product later than a crappy one now. For now, I'm happy with my RTX 2070, but my upgrade paths are only made up of 300+ W cards which I don't intend to upgrade my otherwise flawless PSU for. Nvidia and AMD doesn't seem to give a damn about efficiency (or PSU longevity) nowadays, and while also being skeptical, I secretly hope that Intel will bring back some normality in this sense - which isn't totally unimaginable looking at the 175 W figure in the pictures.
You can’t not sell a graphic card unless, (1) it performs poorly/ unstably, and/or, (2) price is way off. The problem with them pushing the release date further and further is that it will run straight into competition with Ada Lovelace and RDNA3 based GPUs. And in the first place, the first gen ARC GPUs are mean to compete with current gen GPUs. Plus, the further you delay the current generation, there is likely a domino effect on the next gen GPUs. Given that the ARC GPU is off by 2 years from the GPU refresh cycle, it may struggle to remain competitive. These are my opinions.
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#20
AusWolf
watzupkenYou can’t not sell a graphic card unless, (1) it performs poorly/ unstably, and/or, (2) price is way off. The problem with them pushing the release date further and further is that it will run straight into competition with Ada Lovelace and RDNA3 based GPUs. And in the first place, the first gen ARC GPUs are mean to compete with current gen GPUs. Plus, the further you delay the current generation, there is likely a domino effect on the next gen GPUs. Given that the ARC GPU is off by 2 years from the GPU refresh cycle, it may struggle to remain competitive. These are my opinions.
A fair point.
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