Ok... No FE cards have been dropped in the EU zone for two months.

ChomiqScan also has FE drops.

Sure, AIB's are overpriced but if you manage to score an FE it will match the MSRP:

Also in stock today:
www.scan.co.uk/nvidia/products/3080ti/tf1qe0puzig9fk?g=a4ba9e56-7b4e-41d9-9014-72493212495d

All sold out , and none available, are you trolling?!.

BwazeStill no mention that MSRP that we're supposedly chasing isn't normal MSRP from the series launch but the inflated one, with scalping included...

Yes, it's not prices coming down to MSRP, but rather prices and MSRP meeting halfway. Still into ridiculous territory, so still a hard pass from me.

TheoneandonlyMrKAll sold out , and none available, are you trolling?!.

It was in stock 3 hours ago.

ChomiqIt was in stock 3 hours ago.

Literally one was likely.

TaraquinActually mining is very much responsible for the shortage.

[Citation needed]

And no, evidence of a shortage is not evidence that mining is the sole or even primary factor. You need actual evidence mining is solely or primarily to blame, and I assure you it is not. We are going to have the same issues, maybe to a slightly lesser degree but nothing will be MSRP. Mark my words. Supply chain does not heal overnight, especially with large parts of China actively in lockdown right now.

R-T-B[Citation needed]

And no, evidence of a shortage is not evidence that mining is the sole or even primary factor. You need actual evidence mining is solely or primarily to blame, and I assure you it is not. We are going to have the same issues, maybe to a slightly lesser degree but nothing will be MSRP. Mark my words. Supply chain does not heal overnight, especially with large parts of China actively in lockdown right now.

I posted 2 links, Nvidia sold 200k GPUs to miners in Q4 2020 and in Q1 2021 25% of GPUs qent to miners. If we say that 25% of all cards went to miner until Q3 2021 when LHR made it's entry (availability and prices improved a lot all of a sudden). I never said solely responsible, but if all these cards had been available for gamers price would have been a lot lower and availability much better.

TheoneandonlyMrKLiterally one was likely.

store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-gb

3080ti FE - been in stock for well over a week, if not two. And the 3090ti BS edition.

R-T-B[Citation needed]

And no, evidence of a shortage is not evidence that mining is the sole or even primary factor. You need actual evidence mining is solely or primarily to blame, and I assure you it is not. We are going to have the same issues, maybe to a slightly lesser degree but nothing will be MSRP. Mark my words. Supply chain does not heal overnight, especially with large parts of China actively in lockdown right now.

You don't need a citation, you need a brain.

Both AMD and Nvidia have reported record numbers of GPUs delivered. Those GPUs never hit store shelves and the one that did were sold for much higher than MSRP. Where do you think the excess went and who has money to pay 2-3x MSRP no questions asked?

bugBoth AMD and Nvidia have reported record numbers of GPUs delivered. Those GPUs never hit store shelves and the one that did were sold for much higher than MSRP. Where do you think the excess went and who has money to pay 2-3x MSRP no questions asked?

agreed pity scumbag companies

:)

TaraquinIf we say that 25% of all cards went to miner until Q3 2021 when LHR made it's entry

Then we aren't even talking about the majority of Amperes run, so why are we using these stats?

I have no worries because my gpu needs are set. Just don't be surprised when it does not work out is all I am saying. People thought I was nuts when I said mining would be back too. I have a tendency to be right on these trends. Guess I could be wrong, but I doubt it, given the state of the supply chain.

the54thvoidstore.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-gb

3080ti FE - been in stock for well over a week, if not two. And the 3090ti BS edition.

It's over a thousand pounds and isn't the 3080 though?!.

Soo every example of a card they re released with the memory amount they should have originally had(IMHO) is available at they're new elevated ,more for Nvidia MSRP, ohhhh riggghhhht.


No.

Someone mentioned "hopefully mining ends by then" referring to the 40-series launch. Just for the record, since no one else touched on it, mining isn't going to end. It's been here for a long time and will continue to be here. Yes, Ethereum mining will end, and with it a sizable chunk of gamers that are part-time mining just to offset the exorbitant cost of their gaming cards.

R-T-BThen we aren't even talking about the majority of Amperes run, so why are we using these stats?

I have no worries because my gpu needs are set. Just don't be surprised when it does not work out is all I am saying. People thought I was nuts when I said mining would be back too. I have a tendency to be right on these trends. Guess I could be wrong, but I doubt it, given the state of the supply chain.

What stats? All I said is that mining has had a large impact on price and availability. Hopefully mining dies soon when ethereum moves to POS within 'some' months.

TaraquinWhat stats? All I said is that mining has had a large impact on price and availability. Hopefully mining dies soon when ethereum moves to POS within 'some' months.

I suppose I could concede a vague figure like it having a "large" impact (it most certainly is a major factor) but my point was merely it is not alone, or possibly even the majority. I haven't seen any good evidence to indicate otherwise. I feel it's at best, like quarter of the issue we are dealing with, but I fully admit that's just something I'm guessing at.

I see no cards on Nvidia.com or AMD.com selling at MSRP. Everything higher end is close to double MSRP still.

R-T-BI suppose I could concede a vague figure like it having a "large" impact (it most certainly is a major factor) but my point was merely it is not alone, or possibly even the majority. I haven't seen any good evidence to indicate otherwise. I feel it's at best, like quarter of the issue we are dealing with, but I fully admit that's just something I'm guessing at.

What evidence would you deem acceptable? AIB partners going on record saying "yeah, we sold most of our inventory to the highest bidder"? Miners posting selfies with their new farms on Facebook?

Prices simply don't shoot up (and stay there) as GPUs did, unless there's new demand. Mining is the only "new demand" that I know of.

bugWhat evidence would you deem acceptable? AIB partners going on record saying "yeah, we sold most of our inventory to the highest bidder"? Miners posting selfies with their new farms on Facebook?

Prices simply don't shoot up (and stay there) as GPUs did, unless there's new demand. Mining is the only "new demand" that I know of.

Demand is up and production is down due to the global pandemic. That's a double whammy. Personally I think that's the biggest factor, especially now.

But I fully admit the stats I want to make a claim either way (yes that also includes to support my position) are probably not available. Consider that point conceded.

You gotta give Nvidia credit, they produce a product everyone wants.

If they were Russia, the sanctions would be people buying AMD products instead, aka f all difference.

"a global campaign to promote the availability of RTX 30 series graphics cards" :laugh: Anyone smell bulls**t?

They where hoarding loads in warehouses, creating artificial scarcity to keep milking the average joe (nad scalpers) and now they need to get rid of it before the new generation ships. Don't fall for this nonsense & buy a 2 year old card, the next generation is just around the corner. Prices for old tech will drop even more, 2nd hand market will most likely also be flooded with these cards when people (or scalpers) upgrade.

There are multiple reasons the next gen could come back down to reasonable prices. a) crypto mining might be saturated & with the rising energy costs from the sanctions mining becomes less profitable b) due to the rising inflation around the globe demand and price will go down & availability up c) 130m potential customers russian origins are out of the supply chain. On the other hand we now have again Covid lockdowns in China, piled up ships & increasing costs due to inflation and Covid. So there's that ...

End of the day no one but Nvidia & AMD wins. They got their money from the miners and now they are screwing the gamers. If it's happens again with the next line of GPU's from both sides then we have all the proof we need.

R-T-BI suppose I could concede a vague figure like it having a "large" impact (it most certainly is a major factor) but my point was merely it is not alone, or possibly even the majority. I haven't seen any good evidence to indicate otherwise. I feel it's at best, like quarter of the issue we are dealing with, but I fully admit that's just something I'm guessing at.

I think you`ll find very cases where one factor makes all the contribution :) Mining raising demand by 33% (estimate) is quite a big increase on demand. Shortage on dram is another factor that limits production. Delayed shipping and pauses in production due to Covid another. Samsungs 8nm output has been quite good, AMD had struggled much more with TSMCs 7nm, Playstation 5\Xbox X is the proof of that where production is far below demand except for Xbox series S which uses small dies with much better yields than PS5 and Xbox X.

R-T-BDemand is up and production is down due to the global pandemic. That's a double whammy. Personally I think that's the biggest factor, especially now.

But I fully admit the stats I want to make a claim either way (yes that also includes to support my position) are probably not available. Consider that point conceded.

One thing though: production is not down, but actually up: www.digitaltrends.com/computing/gpu-shipments-increased-by-25-percent-despite-shortage/

erockerI see no cards on Nvidia.com or AMD.com selling at MSRP. Everything higher end is close to double MSRP still.

And that's just few from last week drop. AMD drops are on Thursday, around 2PM GMT+1. Everyone enters queue, people are picked at random.

Chomiq



And that's just few from last week drop. AMD drops are on Thursday, around 2PM GMT+1. Everyone enters queue, people are picked at random.

Nvidia founders cards are still a pipe dream though ;)