Tuesday, June 14th 2022

AMD Releases AGESA V2 1.2.0.7 Microcode to Motherboard Vendors and OEMs

AMD over the weekend reportedly released the AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.7 microcode to motherboard vendors and PC OEMs. This particular version of AGESA gains importance to those on Windows 11, as it corrects a performance-stuttering issue caused due to frequent polling of the fTPM by the OS. The new version of AGESA is also bound for AMD 300-series chipset motherboards, where it adds official (stable) support for Ryzen 5000 series processors, letting those on the 5-year old platform enjoy an IPC uplift as much as 60% (Zen 3 vs. Zen). 1.2.0.7 is also rumored to address certain stability issues with the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, and enables BCLK overclocking on the chip, as long as the processor doesn't draw more than 1.35 V in the Vcore voltage domain. It's now over to the motherboard vendors and PC OEMs, to encapsulate 1.2.0.7 with their firmware and release to end-users.
Source: HotHardware
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115 Comments on AMD Releases AGESA V2 1.2.0.7 Microcode to Motherboard Vendors and OEMs

#26
Makaveli
freeagentI tried it a couple of times while it was in and out of beta. It’s “ok” but it clips performance on my 5900X too hard. Since I didn’t have any stutters I went back to an older AGESA. Probably good for 5800X3D and anyone who has any thermal issues.
Are you pushing EDC over 140?
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#27
freeagent
MakaveliAre you pushing EDC over 140?
Yes, I am at 160.
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#28
TheOne
trparkyStartAllBack fixes that along with a lot of other stuff that's broken in Windows 11 just like how similar software fixes the glaring issues on Windows 10.
I've been meaning to look more in depth at the third party software to modify the UI, especially those that modify the taskbar, but I don't think it should be necessary for small changes like the menus. I'm waiting for the first major patch to launch in a few months before I decide if I want to run it on my main system.
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#29
Cr4zy
Tested this on my MSI ACE X570. worse ST performance by a decent margin, my 5950x just refuses to do 5ghz on this agesa, but going back to older version I can get 4 cores at 5.05 with the same settings??

TPM Stuttering still seemed present or some other issue causes games to stutter.

USB audio that was supposedly fixed in 1.2.0.2 is still broken 5 versions later, only fix is still to set pcie to 3.0.

This is honestly the worst CPU/Board purchase ive ever made, thanks AMD.
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#30
Makaveli
Cr4zyTested this on my MSI ACE X570. worse ST performance by a decent margin, my 5950x just refuses to do 5ghz on this agesa, but going back to older version I can get 4 cores at 5.05 with the same settings??

TPM Stuttering still seemed present or some other issue causes games to stutter.

USB audio that was supposedly fixed in 1.2.0.2 is still broken 5 versions later, only fix is still to set pcie to 3.0.

This is honestly the worst CPU/Board purchase ive ever made, thanks AMD.
What devices are you using that you are still seeing USB issues. I've not had any on my system but also most of my usb devices are newish.
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#31
freeagent
USB dropouts is unstable oc, at least on my system. Either fclk or interconnect related..
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#32
Blaeza
Is it only me that is shitting it waiting for the bios update to go wrong?
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#33
Makaveli
JKRsegaIs it only me that is shitting it waiting for the bios update to go wrong?
lol no

make sure you got a UPS and no lighting storms in the area :)
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#34
freeagent
JKRsegaIs it only me that is shitting it waiting for the bios update to go wrong?
No, for me flashing is always a little tense..
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#35
Makaveli
freeagentNo, for me flashing is always a little tense..
And even more so on boards that don't have USB flash back like my current x570 board :)
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#36
freeagent
MakaveliAnd even more so on boards that don't have USB flash back like my current x570 board :)
White knuckler huh? I am getting too old to be that adventurous:D
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#37
Makaveli
freeagentWhite knuckler huh? I am getting too old to be that adventurous:D
lol been doing bios flashes for like 25 years now I know to close all the windows and rub the magic 8 ball before I click on ok.

But i also remember doing them back in the day where it wasn't built into the bios and you have to download the correct tools to do so and there was less margin for error.
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#38
Cr4zy
freeagentUSB dropouts is unstable oc, at least on my system. Either fclk or interconnect related..
MakaveliWhat devices are you using that you are still seeing USB issues. I've not had any on my system but also most of my usb devices are newish.
Goxlr mini. Its the only one I notice serious issues with but it's AWFUL watching a youtube video causes stuttering instantly.

Ive not had any stability related issues in any other situations, sure ive got PBO/XMP on but considering the same "fix" of disabling pcie4 on GPU is still working it seems like its still a hardware problem and not really an overclocking one. I could always test it with PBO/XMP off but even if that solves the audio issues that's less of a fix than pcie4->3 due to how much performance impact it would have. Either way AMD calimed it was fixed and overclocking shouldnt break it if thats the case :/
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#39
burkm
Seems to me, that this is a new release of 1.2.0.7 because of that V2 identifier. Might be, that this will cause another round of new BIOS releases if I read this correctly....
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#40
freeagent
Cr4zyGoxlr mini. Its the only one I notice serious issues with but it's AWFUL watching a youtube video causes stuttering instantly.

Ive not had any stability related issues in any other situations, sure ive got PBO/XMP on but considering the same "fix" of disabling pcie4 on GPU is still working it seems like its still a hardware problem and not really an overclocking one. I could always test it with PBO/XMP off but even if that solves the audio issues that's less of a fix than pcie4->3 due to how much performance impact it would have. Either way AMD calimed it was fixed and overclocking shouldnt break it if thats the case :/
Could be an issue with MSI? My Asus boards have been cock solid since I started running them in 2020.
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#41
Makaveli
freeagentCould be an issue with MSI? My Asus boards have been cock solid since I started running them in 2020.
It could also be his device Goxlr mini I wonder if there are any firmware updates for it?
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#42
freeagent
MakaveliIt could also be his device Goxlr mini I wonder if there are any firmware updates for it?
Missed that.. whoops
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#43
Blaeza
So I've had a BSOD and Forza Horizon 5 crashing on me since I've updated. Could be the heat as well though but I dunno. Can updates do this?
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#44
Makaveli
I play FH5 and no crashing on my end with this bios version.

Are your video drivers current?
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#45
WhitetailAni
Oh sweet.
I don't think I should run a Zen 3 chip other than a 5600G in my B350-F, but it is nice to have!
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#46
Blaeza
MakaveliI play FH5 and no crashing on my end with this bios version.

Are your video drivers current?
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#47
Cr4zy
freeagentCould be an issue with MSI? My Asus boards have been cock solid since I started running them in 2020.
It could well be, but that's not something I can do much about other than pulling apart a full custom loop to do it and it would have to 100% work which I also cant test without a lot of effort.
MakaveliIt could also be his device Goxlr mini I wonder if there are any firmware updates for it?
The mini has had several updates none of them have ever mentioned or addressed the issue and as there's a decent sized community of people using it if it was a product issue im sure they would have been aware of it.

It still remains that the only fix that worked before AMD issued any BIOS updates was switching pcie4 to 3 and it's still the only way im solving the problem. I cant see it being anything but a hardware issue somewhere with AMD/x570/msi. For everything else it's almost flawless (because i dont use tpm and dont yet run w11), but its a pain.
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#48
Bruno_O
olymind1In my B450 Tomahawk with a 3600X going from 1006 to 1207 i lost noticeable ST and MT performance according to cpu-z, games and benchmarks showed fps drops, went back to 1203 it is much closer to 1006, and support Zen3.
Same here with my 5800X + Aorus B550 Pro.
PBO +200, hitting 5.05GHz

On the latest Agesa I get 15650 points on Cinebench23 and 672 single core on cpuz.

Rolling back to Agesa 1.2.0.3 I get 16030 and 692.

My guess is that newer agesas have security fixes that impact performance.
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#49
Makaveli
Bruno_OSame here with my 5800X + Aorus B550 Pro.
PBO +200, hitting 5.05GHz

On the latest Agesa I get 15650 points on Cinebench23 and 672 single core on cpuz.

Rolling back to Agesa 1.2.0.3 I get 16030 and 692.

My guess is that newer agesas have security fixes that impact performance.
I reapplied my previous PBO settings when I went from 1.2.0.3 to 1.2.0.7 I haven't noticed a drop.

my two best cores still hit 5.05Ghz with PBO+ 200

As for EDC i've always had it at 140 so that isn't an issue for me.
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#50
Bruno_O
MakaveliI replied my previous PBO settings when I went from 1.2.0.3 to 1.2.0.7 I haven't noticed a drop.

my two best cores still hit 5.05Ghz with PBO+ 200

As for EDC i've always had it at 140 so that isn't an issue for me.
With Gigabyte you can save your settings to a file and import, which I did, but I also checked all settings to confirm they were the same.
After seeing the huge loss on 1.2.0.7 I've actually tested all Agesas / BIOS between .3 and .7, and with every update there was a slight drop in performance, accumulating to 2-3% from .3 to .7

I have an Arctic AIO 280mm and well ventilated case, and I always test after a fresh reboot + 5 min of idle time. Ran the tests multiple times and results were consistent.

It all makes sense as the 2 BIOS with the heaviest impact on performance had micro code security fixes, which I don't care since my Windows is clean.

At the end of the day, I have a 5800X (overclocked + old agesa) that's faster than the 5800X3D (locked + newer agesa) according to cinebench and cpuz results on reddit.
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