Monday, June 20th 2022

AMD GPU Prices Fall Below MSRP in Europe, NVIDIA GPUs Approach the Baseline

Graphics card prices have been on a steady decline in the past few months, following their peak in May of last year when we saw double and triple pricing compared to the baseline MSRP value. According to the 3DCenter.org report, which tracks graphics card prices in Germany and Austria, we have information that AMD GPU prices have dipped below MSRP, while NVIDIA GPUs are very close to baseline listed prices. The report tracks Ethereum mining profitability and displays it in the yellow line. As the line is declining, so are the GPU prices. For AMD, the prices are now 8% below the 100% of MSRP. At 92%, consumers can find AMD GPUs at a slight discount. While AMD cards are slightly cheaper, NVIDIA GPUs are now at 102% of the MSRP, the lowest price point since the launch.
Source: 3DCenter.org
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60 Comments on AMD GPU Prices Fall Below MSRP in Europe, NVIDIA GPUs Approach the Baseline

#26
ModEl4
brutlernCan some please tell me what the actual MSRP (in numbers, not percentages) in Europe actually is? Because if the MSRP in the US, I'm looking it at the 3080 specifically, is 700 usd, so lets say +20% in Europe would be 850 usd tops, we are nowhere near that in Europe. We are currently at least 1000+ usd everywhere I look, 1100 usd being more common. I found on a german website, the cheapest one at 930 usd, it's better than 1100 usd, but still not only 2% over MSRP. The fact is, the 2080 MSRP was 700 usd also, I bought that at just under 800 usd way back then. So, where are all the 800 +2% usd 3080s at?

The article says, that on average, in Europe, nvidia cards are only 2% higher than MSRP. They must be talking about Europa, one of Jupiter's moons, but that's the only place you could buy the cards at +2% over MSRP.

And BTW, the cheapest price on newegg for a 3080 is 800 usd, so even there they are 14% above MSRP.
The European MSRPs are not very indicative, they need to cover many countries with different VAT, market conditions etc and in some smaller brands it's not even mandatory or possible to buy from a central European office/warehouse, so in these few cases you're buying from Asia FOB/EXW or whatever, meaning even more potential differences between countries, so even more difficult to shape a unified European MSRP that is indicative.
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#27
Sithaer
neatfeatguyI look at it two ways:
1) should something happen to my system/GPU, I at least have a capable backup.
2) I may end up donating it next year if my kids don't find any further use for it. Hopefully my friends can get their fundraiser up and off the ground next year, it'll be a good outlet to put this computer up for auction.
Thats fair enough, I'm also planning to keep my current GTX 1070 as a useable backup if its still alive by the time I'm replacing it with a stronger card. 'currently I have no backup GPU'
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#29
ZoneDymo
Dont buy any of it and if you can, dont even get the next gen, fuck em all
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#30
ARF
ZoneDymoDont buy any of it and if you can, dont even get the next gen, fuck em all
I will have to next gen because I have a PC with Ryzen 9 5900X sitting there waiting for a new graphics card ;)
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#31
Veseleil
Clickbait article. TPU, WTH? :shadedshu:
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#32
Metroid
It is going to fall a lot more, very soon the crypto market scam will crash another 50% than what is at moment then you will see what panic, misery, sadness is about, for now sheeps still feel safe, let them and once it does you will see gpus 50% to 75% less than msrp second hand market and then nvidia and AMD making sales up to 50% to cut losses.
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#33
bug
progsteprices still look pretty high to me, but definitely not as bad as last year.
It only says the prices are closing in on the MSRP, not that MSRP is coming back to sane territory ;)
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#34
RedBear
R0H1TWell they'll probably fall much lower, could be a sign of (bad) things to come! Generally speaking Megacorps know about this stuff a lot earlier than your average pleb :shadedshu:
Dunno, we're really close to the launch of a new GPU generation, I guess Nvidia's prices will need to fall at MSRP and slightly below that, but I'm not sure on GPU prices in general falling much lower.
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#35
PapaTaipei
MSRP is extremely high anyway since the 20xx series. Gotta sell "ray tracing" and "tensor core" marketing.
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#36
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
neatfeatguyMy kids were always clamoring to play games on my computer. So I eventually got enough parts and a near MSRP 3060Ti last year, so I gifted them a computer for Christmas. They were psyched! A week later I get the kids.....

Me: Okay, guys. Let's put this computer together!
Daughter: That's stupid. No one wants to know how to put a computer together. This is dumb.
Son: Okay, I guess.

10 minutes into getting boxes opened and showing the kids what to do the daughter has already wandered off and my son is sitting there saying, "This is boring." over and over again.

Little ingrates. I put the computer together and got everything working. My son used the computer for the first few months and kept telling me he needs such and such games and I can find them on Steam......games he only asked about once, said he never played them before, but he knew he would like them and play them all the time if I bought them for him. I said I would think about it and he never asked again. My daughter has not touched the computer once and my son has used it once in the past 4 months.

However, ironically, my daughter has built some "kick ass" gaming rigs (according to her) on some PC Builder Simulator on her iPad that she's shown to me. I asked her what's different about building one on the app and actually being able to build one and she just shrugged her shoulders and said no one cares about actually building a real computer and she walked away.

That's just as dumb as my son (was 7 at the time this happened) that threw a fit about having to clean and how much hated cleaning and it was stupid. Only to find him later, after he cleaned his room, playing on his laptop that grandpa & grandma got him for Christmas that year, a cleaning game. He went around the house as a maid robot (think Rosie from The Jetsons) and cleaning. He told me that cleaning stuff in real life is stupid and boring, but cleaning in the game as a robot makes it fun.

I only personally know one kid that's hooked on PC gaming and he's trying to save up his money for a gaming system. His quad core laptop with a 2060 in it isn't good enough for him because he wants to stream games. He wants something with 8+ cores and at least a 3070. Otherwise most kids these days are on a console or just their phone/tablet. PC gaming is lost on these kids.
How old are the brats lol

Sounds to me they want everything handed to them, boy are they in for a rude awakening when you make them pay their way
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#37
nguyen
I could finally buy a new 3060Ti for the same money I sold my used 2060S last year :D
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#38
joemama
There's a great drop in price on GPUs recently in here Taiwan, Gigabyte's 3070Ti master is at 15990NTD (~540USD), the ASUS TUF 3080 and MSI 3080 gaming trio Z are both at 19999NTD (~670USD)
Looks like the prices are dropping real quick
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#39
SpittinFax
Nvidia cards are still very overpriced. AU$379 for a Powercolor RX 6600 Hellhound and AU$629 for a Gigabyte RTX 3060 Eagle.
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#40
Minus Infinity
Clearly Australia hasn't received the memo. Still over priced.
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#41
ravenhold
When will prices come below MSRP on the whole world?
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#42
BoboOOZ
FrickNot in Sweden.
Prices are falling averywhere, the problem is that they are in USD, and lately the euro has weakened a lot compared to the USD, so the prices stay pretty high in the EU.
brutlernCan some please tell me what the actual MSRP (in numbers, not percentages) in Europe actually is? Because if the MSRP in the US, I'm looking it at the 3080 specifically, is 700 usd, so lets say +20% in Europe would be 850 usd tops, we are nowhere near that in Europe. We are currently at least 1000+ usd everywhere I look, 1100 usd being more common. I found on a german website, the cheapest one at 930 usd, it's better than 1100 usd, but still not only 2% over MSRP. The fact is, the 2080 MSRP was 700 usd also, I bought that at just under 800 usd way back then. So, where are all the 800 +2% usd 3080s at?

The article says, that on average, in Europe, nvidia cards are only 2% higher than MSRP. They must be talking about Europa, one of Jupiter's moons, but that's the only place you could buy the cards at +2% over MSRP.

And BTW, the cheapest price on newegg for a 3080 is 800 usd, so even there they are 14% above MSRP.
You have many 3080s a little above 850 euro in Europe:
www.dealabs.com/visit/thread/2363649
www.dealabs.com/visit/thread/2363297
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#43
ravenhold
BoboOOZPrices are falling averywhere, the problem is that they are in USD, and lately the euro has weakened a lot compared to the USD, so the prices stay pretty high in the EU.
It's great to be american!
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#44
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
BoboOOZPrices are falling averywhere, the problem is that they are in USD, and lately the euro has weakened a lot compared to the USD, so the prices stay pretty high in the EU.


You have many 3080s a little above 850 euro in Europe:
www.dealabs.com/visit/thread/2363649
www.dealabs.com/visit/thread/2363297
In Europe yes, but not in Sweden. That is the normal price for the RTX 3070, 3080 is about SEK10000, or ~€940.
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#45
AlwaysHope
Not touching RDNA2 or Nvidia's 3000 serious until I see proper ray tracing support & at in my opinion, a reasonable/price performance point. Ray tracing will definitely take off with more future AAA game titles. It's like I see here in Australia now, RX 6700 XT & RX 6800 for nearly half price compared to 6, 12 months ago..... too little, too late!
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#46
BoboOOZ
FrickIn Europe yes, but not in Sweden. That is the normal price for the RTX 3070, 3080 is about SEK10000, or ~€940.
Well, nothing is stopping you to buy from anywhere in the EU. I live in France, I got my best deal on a 6900XT from Amazon Italy.
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#47
ravenhold
AlwaysHopeNot touching RDNA2 or Nvidia's 3000 serious until I see proper ray tracing support & at in my opinion, a reasonable/price performance point. Ray tracing will definitely take off with more future AAA game titles. It's like I see here in Australia now, RX 6700 XT & RX 6800 for nearly half price compared to 6, 12 months ago..... too little, too late!
3000 serious have relatively good ray tracing support and is getting better with DLSS. For fine experience 3070/Ti is required but very bad price/perf ratio.
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#48
bug
ravenhold3000 serious have relatively good ray tracing support and is getting better with DLSS. For fine experience 3070/Ti is required but very bad price/perf ratio.
It's still barely enough for RT@4k. Not to mention devs really need to use more rays than they currently do. And that will need even more hardware.
But it's getting there, it's currently enough for early adopters.
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#49
Bwaze
BoboOOZWell, nothing is stopping you to buy from anywhere in the EU. I live in France, I got my best deal on a 6900XT from Amazon Italy.
There's more and more companies that limit shipping to just their country. Some stores even prohibit use of resending services like Mailbox.de. Even Amazon has more and more items they don't send out of their country.

Open EU market apparently isn't a thing any more.
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#50
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
BoboOOZWell, nothing is stopping you to buy from anywhere in the EU. I live in France, I got my best deal on a 6900XT from Amazon Italy.
Which is great until you have to RMA something. For that reason alone I very much prefer to by as local as possible.
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