Monday, June 27th 2022

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1630 Set To Launch Tomorrow

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The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1630 is set to be officially unveiled tomorrow as a successor to the GTX 1050 Ti with Colorful already listing one such model on their website. The GTX 1630 will be an entry-level card featuring a TU117-150 GPU with 512 CUDA cores running at 1785 MHz paired with 4 GB of GDDR6 memory on a 64-bit memory bus for a total bandwidth of 96 GB/s. The leaked Colorful GTX 1630 BattleAx features a dual-fan cooling solution, triple display connectors, and an additional 6-pin power input essentially copying the company's GTX 1650 model. The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1630 will be available from multiple board partners when it launches tomorrow and could reportedly retail for ~150 USD according to some Chinese retailers.
Source: VideoCardz

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70 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1630 Set To Launch Tomorrow

#51
ARF
AusWolfYeah, look at any Ampere card. They're so advanced that even the smallest 3050 has a power connector and fan(s).


It still can be if its factory power target is configured right.
The RTX 3050 has a 276 sq. mm die which historically has been used for higher performance tiers.
It is a weird design and product choice - 2560 shaders and 130 watt limit.

But still has small ITX versions:


MSI RTX 3050 AERO ITX Specs | TechPowerUp GPU Database
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#52
DoLlyBirD
AusWolfYes it does, in PowerColor and Sapphire flavours (look at my signature). ;) The only thing you're missing is crippled performance in some games with PCI-e 3.0 and older motherboards.
Crippled at pcie 3.0 and would still likely smash this 6pin pcie pointless GPU (IMO) in that scenario, I just find it odd they haven't released it as a LP no pcie option, perhaps NV partners will realise it's true potential, but the 1650 is cheap enough already, this brings little to the table
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#53
AusWolf
DoLlyBirDCrippled at pcie 3.0 and would still likely smash this 6pin pcie pointless GPU (IMO) in that scenario, I just find it odd they haven't released it as a LP no pcie option, perhaps NV partners will realise it's true potential, but the 1650 is cheap enough already, this brings little to the table
True, the 6400 is about 1650 level performance (the 6500 XT is closer to the 1650 Super) even in PCI-e 3.0, except for a few odd cases.
ARFThe RTX 3050 has a 276 sq. mm die which historically has been used for higher performance tiers.
It is a weird design and product choice - 2560 shaders and 130 watt limit.
Exactly. Had it been limited to 75 W with passive and/or low profile options, it would have made more sense. It's just proof that nm isn't everything.
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#54
ARF
AusWolfExactly. Had it been limited to 75 W with passive and/or low profile options, it would have made more sense. It's just proof that nm isn't everything.
No, you need to shrink that to 4 nm to make it 75 W.
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#55
AusWolf
ARFNo, you need to shrink that to 4 nm to make it 75 W.
No. You need to give it a proper power target and boost table, that's all. Are you aware of the terms "undervolting" and "underclocking"? A chip basically consumes as much or as little power as you want it to (with restrictions such as heat and electron migration of course).

Besides, 75 W on 12 nm is easier to cool than on 4 nm (due to heat density).
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#56
DoLlyBirD
ARFNo, you need to shrink that to 4 nm to make it 75 W.
There is a 75w 1650 AIB GPU already? no way this thing should require 6 pin pcie, and will likely hinder sales IMO, users with **30 series GPU's are 1030 SFF/LP systems and this would have been a perfect drop in replacement and upgrade for those customers, seems a bit of a silly move to not release it as a LP/SFF product as there are tons of users waiting for a worthwhile upgrade, hopefully they will all snag a 6400 XT as a kick in the teeth to nvidia at making such a basic business/marketing mistake and they couldn't be blamed, this is up there with the 6500 XT pcie 4x4 debacle
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#57
Vayra86
AusWolfI measure computer hardware in FPS, seconds and Watts. Not in nm.
Well apparently there's too many Watts for slot power alone and too little FPS to call it proper gaming. I wouldn't game for a second on it :)

Whereas a 1050ti could be called half a gaming card.
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#58
DoLlyBirD
Vayra86Well apparently there's too many Watts for slot power alone and too little FPS to call it proper gaming. I wouldn't game for a second on it :)

Whereas a 1050ti could be called half a gaming card.
See my reply, if you can release a 1650 at <75w then you can definitely release a 1630 that doesn't require external power, seems an odd choice, 12nm isn't the issue.
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#59
Dr. Dro
DoLlyBirDSee my reply, if you can release a 1650 at <75w then you can definitely release a 1630 that doesn't require external power, seems an odd choice, 12nm isn't the issue.
From what I can understand, the intended design for the 1630 is a 75W one, with premium options requiring external power - just like the GTX 1050 Ti. Either way, we'll know more soon
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#60
aQi
Cant see a good point to release this card at this time.
When gpu shortage outraged Nvidia started pulling out 1050ti all of a sudden. 150$ as a replacement to 1050ti. Dont seem to see much on this.
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#61
ARF
DoLlyBirDSee my reply, if you can release a 1650 at <75w then you can definitely release a 1630 that doesn't require external power, seems an odd choice, 12nm isn't the issue.
You can release a 20-watt version. The thing is that it is old, 2016 technology. Everyone that wanted it, got it long long time ago.
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#62
Vayra86
Dr. DroFrom what I can understand, the intended design for the 1630 is a 75W one, with premium options requiring external power - just like the GTX 1050 Ti. Either way, we'll know more soon
Imagine buying yourself a 'premium' 1630 though
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#63
Dr. Dro
ARFYou can release a 20-watt version. The thing is that it is old, 2016 technology. Everyone that wanted it, got it long long time ago.
The GTX 1650 released in April 2019, and the big Turing (RTX 20 series) released a year prior, though. And I disagree, people still buy junk like the HD 5450 in third-world markets, why not a 1630?
Vayra86Imagine buying yourself a 'premium' 1630 though
Heh, fundamentally, I agree, but if the price is right... its predecessors had some interesting designs, for example:

www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/galaxy-gtx-750-ti-hall-of-fame.b3018
www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/evga-gtx-1050-ti-ftw-acx-3-0.b3902

I just think of them as "cute", but they definitely fell off the value curve back then, and it's not like we are back at the point where GPUs are cheap enough to justify things like that existing anymore.
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#64
BlaezaLite
Surely there will be "Super" and "Ti" versions too?
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#65
AusWolf
Vayra86Well apparently there's too many Watts for slot power alone and too little FPS to call it proper gaming. I wouldn't game for a second on it :)

Whereas a 1050ti could be called half a gaming card.
I expect this thing to be around 1050 Ti level in performance. If it's on the same level in power consumption, too, that's quite sad.
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#66
PLAfiller
Vayra86There's even a reintroduction of DVI on this baby, man I had half expected a VGA next to it.
DVI is present on all GTX1650 apart from may be Gainward/ Galax which usually have all HDMI+DP. It is not uncommon in this class I think. Many GTX1650 Super also utilize DP+HDMI+DVI as a standard output range. I don't like it either and whenever I have a choice I go for no DVI output.
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#67
ppn
1650 - 2019.Apr - $149
1630 - 2022.Jun - $149

So when can we expect a GTX 3030. probably in 2025 and pay the same $249

Now if they shrinked 1660Ti to 6nm with G6X retailing for $66 that would be a good deal.
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#69
Chrispy_
W1zzardOf course not, this is estimated by the same algorithm that we've been using for years, which usually works better than I expected when I wrote it
Cool, good to know.

I'm all for educated guesses and estimates. If anything, its even more interesting to estimate first because when a GPU differs in the real world testing from its estimates, you can start to dig into deeper reasons for the deviation and uncover shenanigans.

Case in point, GTX970 3.5GB fiasco, or GTX 550Ti's asymmetrical RAM layout....
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#70
Wirko
80-watt HamsterThere's going to be slot-powered models of the 1630, right?
As long as they eat less power than you do, amiright?
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