Xex360They could've neutralised Alder Lake with Ryzen 9 3D. But it seems they cannot keep up with demand why bother.

wolf5900X3D is a compelling CPU for the duality of content creation/editing etc and gaming, a great mixture of cores for productivity, and that sweet sweet vcache for gaming.

Xex360They could've neutralised Alder Lake with Ryzen 9 3D. But it seems they cannot keep up with demand why bother.

LenneI just think that R9X3D wasn't worth it when Zen4 is just around the corner.

ARFIt will create internal competition - why does AMD insist to produce two lineups with approximately equal or similar performance characteristics?
Zen 3 3D =~ Zen 4.

LenneI can see the point of 5800X3D - to get the crown of the fastest gaming CPU (or at least trading blows), but having the whole lineup with that 3D cache, yeah, no sense.

ARFThe only thing that comes up in my mind is that AMD pursues higher production volumes - maybe they will be able to deliver more wafers Zen 3 3D + Zen 4 than only if they move everything to the new Zen 4.
Also, I think they are afraid of the DDR5 pricing, and this is why they will try to continue the AM4 support a bit further.

LenneSucks though that Zen4 won't support DDR4, Intel did a wise move with ADL supporting though.

And yeah, I remember that Phenom II did support both DDR2 and DDR3, weird how they didn't do a similar thing again.

TiggerYeah, anyone going to AM5 will need to ditch any expensive DDR4 they bought for a loss, unless like a fair few on here they are PC kleptos with multiple machines.

john_I can see a 5900X3D or 5950X3D to keep the platform in top spots of gaming charts while also offering excellent multitasking performance. A 5600X3D doesn't make much sense, considering the price hike this model will have because of the extra cost of adding Vcache and the fact that in multitasking will be even more problematic than 5800X3D when comparing it with Intel's models at the same price range.

InVasManiA smaller die should allow for more leeway for a higher stacked cache capacity on a 5600X/5700X chip derivatives. AMD should should do Zen 3 5600X/5900X models with X3D and later add Zen 4 models for 5700X/5950X with X3D. That would allow for models to launch earlier and slightly later, but gives wiggle room compete compellingly with current Alder Lake models and Raptor Lake models arriving later as drop in replacements for AM4.

InVasManiPorting Zen 4 with 3D stacked cache to TRX40 is something that could very interesting for AMD to do.

Nvidia, AMD, and Apple are all reportedly cutting their wafer orders from TSMC as people put less priority on buying the latest electronic goods in light of rising global inflation.
According to a report by DigiTimes, translated by RetiredEngineer, three of TSMC's major customers—Apple, Nvidia, and AMD—are looking to revise their orders.

gffermariIt's suicide to release more 3Ds or Zen 4 or anything for the AM4 platform while the AM5 is due to be released in a couple of months.
The only reason of doing something like that, is probably the current economic situation globally.

If AMD does that though, they may release a 5600X3D soon, for those who don't want to or can't pay for a 5800X3D or AM5 and a 5900X3D some months after the release of ZEN 4, although I highly doubt that.

c2DDragonI think there is something wrong with the prices :kookoo:
I guess every weeks they just put random numbers for their prices just for fun.



I can't wait to see the 5600X3D at the 5700X price at launch then with random numbers for price xD

Guwapo77That is intriguing. Its still $449 for both on the US page.

c2DDragonThis is weird.

ARFIt will create internal competition - why does AMD insist to produce two lineups with approximately equal or similar performance characteristics?
Zen 3 3D =~ Zen 4.