Friday, July 1st 2022
AMD Readies More Ryzen 5000X3D Processors?
AMD is looking to expand its Socket AM4 Ryzen 5000X3D processor lineup, according to Greymon55, a reliable source with AMD rumors. The current Ryzen 7 5800X3D 8-core processor was well received by the tech-press for its 3D Vertical Cache innovation that significantly improved gaming performance, putting it in the same league as Intel's fastest 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" processors, despite being based on the older "Zen 3" microarchitecture. AMD uses the same 8-core 3DV Cache chiplet (CCD) in its EPYC "Milan-X" enterprise processors. This lineup could see an expansion, with announcements expected in July.
If true, it could see the introduction of SKUs such as the Ryzen 5 5600X3D, Ryzen 9 5900X3D, or perhaps even the 5950X3D, with the latter two featuring a mind-boggling 200 MB of Total Cache (L2+L3). This would provide a tempting upgrade path to everyone with a Socket AM4 platform, now that AMD has extended official "Zen 3" support to even the oldest AMD 300-series chipset motherboards. There is yet another rumor that predicts AMD could develop certain "Zen 4" SKUs on the AM4 package, which sees a "Zen 4" CCD paired with a current-gen cIOD that has DDR4 and PCIe Gen 4 connectivity. Regardless of which rumor is true, AMD's support for AM4 isn't ending anytime soon.
Source:
Greymon55
If true, it could see the introduction of SKUs such as the Ryzen 5 5600X3D, Ryzen 9 5900X3D, or perhaps even the 5950X3D, with the latter two featuring a mind-boggling 200 MB of Total Cache (L2+L3). This would provide a tempting upgrade path to everyone with a Socket AM4 platform, now that AMD has extended official "Zen 3" support to even the oldest AMD 300-series chipset motherboards. There is yet another rumor that predicts AMD could develop certain "Zen 4" SKUs on the AM4 package, which sees a "Zen 4" CCD paired with a current-gen cIOD that has DDR4 and PCIe Gen 4 connectivity. Regardless of which rumor is true, AMD's support for AM4 isn't ending anytime soon.
121 Comments on AMD Readies More Ryzen 5000X3D Processors?
I'd like to see a 5600X3D for an extra $100 CAD, like $350 CAD for it...
5600xt3d should be interesting. I wonder, if there will be any difference between the 5800x3d and 5900x3d. These were almost similar in performance.
Either way, it would still be a better option than having to get a new mobo and ram for a AM5 system.
I just doubt they would throw Vcache on the 5600. It will also be a kind of internal competition that could lead in lower sales of CPUs that are higher priced than 5600X3D, if that 5600X3D ends up a success.
Seeing people asking "why would I buy the 5800X3D that is much higher priced than 5700X or at the same price as the 5900X and 5950X that offer more cores", it makes me think that people will have second thoughts paying extra for a 6 core CPU that will be much higher prices compared to other 6 core CPUs and in the territory, of 8 or even 10 core CPUs. On the other hand, AMD offering the 5600X3D at a price that is no brainer, will not only lead to plenty of Alder Lake CPUs collecting duct on store selves, but also 5800X and higher AMD's own CPUs collecting the same amount of duct. Not just Zen 3 CPUs, but also Zen 4 CPUs.
www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/AMD-Ryzen-5800X3D-vs-5800X-for-Content-Creation-2331/
Gaming doesn't really need all the cores we currently have, yet at least. So if you are doing something that needs over 8 cores you are firmly in the area where X3D is either not going to help or make what you are trying to do worse. This is strictly a gaming stunt. And the types of gamers that would need 10-16 core CPUs, they're doing content creation as well so this isn't really a good buy for them. So if you need the 5900x or 5950x a 5800X3D or 5600X3D isn't going to affect that decision. Along the same lines Alderlake CPUs typically beat the 5800X3D in content creation scores as well.
This is really sort of niche product for people that game and don't do anything heavy lifting outside of it.
If they just design a seperate voltage rail for it's cache then we could actually OC the living snot out of it.
The chipset is housed in the CPU. Board is just the interconnect. If your talking about PCI-E 4.0 well yeah then dont stick with a 3x series board.
And yeah, I know that chipset isn't like it used to be before as the CPU houses about all the logic what a traditional chipset used to handle.
The problem is the DRAM that is responsible for the additional cache cant cope with voltages higher then 1.35V. It's still connected to the CPU voltage in terms. So as long as they dont design a seperate voltage rail for the DRAM cache, we cant overvolt or really push the chips to it's limits.