Monday, August 8th 2022

NVIDIA Announces Preliminary Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2023, Gaming $$ Down 44%

NVIDIA (NASDAQ: NVDA) today announced selected preliminary financial results for the second quarter ended July 31, 2022. Second quarter revenue is expected to be approximately $6.70 billion, down 19% sequentially and up 3% from the prior year, primarily reflecting weaker than forecasted Gaming revenue. Gaming revenue was $2.04 billion, down 44% sequentially and down 33% from the prior year. Data Center revenue was $3.81 billion, up 1% sequentially and up 61% from the prior year.

The shortfall relative to the May revenue outlook of $8.10 billion was primarily attributable to lower sell-in of Gaming products reflecting a reduction in channel partner sales likely due to macroeconomic headwinds. In addition to reducing sell-in, the company implemented pricing programs with channel partners to reflect challenging market conditions that are expected to persist into the third quarter.
Data Center revenue, though a record, was somewhat short of the company's expectations, as it was impacted by supply chain disruptions. Second quarter results are expected to include approximately $1.32 billion of charges, primarily for inventory and related reserves, based on revised expectations of future demand.

"Our gaming product sell-through projections declined significantly as the quarter progressed," said Jensen Huang, founder and CEO of NVIDIA. "As we expect the macroeconomic conditions affecting sell-through to continue, we took actions with our Gaming partners to adjust channel prices and inventory.

"NVIDIA has excellent products and position driving large and growing markets. As we navigate these challenges, we remain focused on the once-in-a-generation opportunity to reinvent computing for the era of AI," he said.

"The significant charges incurred in the quarter reflect previous long-term purchase commitments we made during a time of severe component shortages and our current expectation of ongoing macroeconomic uncertainty," said Colette Kress, EVP and CFO of NVIDIA.

"We believe our long-term gross margin profile is intact. We have slowed operating expense growth, balancing investments for long-term growth while managing near-term profitability. We plan to continue stock buybacks as we foresee strong cash generation and future growth," she said.

The preliminary results for the second quarter ended July 31, 2022, are an estimate, based on information available to management as of the date of this release, and are subject to further changes upon completion of the company's standard quarter and year-end closing procedures. This update does not present all necessary information for an understanding of NVIDIA's financial condition as of the date of this release, or its results of operations for the second quarter. As NVIDIA completes its quarter-end financial close process and finalizes its financial statements for the quarter, it will be required to make significant judgments in a number of areas. It is possible that NVIDIA may identify items that require it to make adjustments to the preliminary financial information set forth above and those changes could be material. NVIDIA does not intend to update such financial information prior to release of its final second quarter financial statement information, which is currently scheduled for Aug. 24, 2022.
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46 Comments on NVIDIA Announces Preliminary Financial Results for Second Quarter Fiscal 2023, Gaming $$ Down 44%

#1
z1n0x
Crypto party is over, eh?
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#2
cvaldes
The big takeaway here is Gaming's decline as a revenue contributor. Last quarter, Data Center just nosed out Gaming in revenue and the other categories made the remaining 10-12% of company revenue.

This quarter, Data Center blows by Gaming to take a commanding lead as the business unit generating the most revenue for NVIDIA.

Not only is the crypto party is over but also GPU sales to system builders and their AIB partners for the DIY graphics card market has also shown a big decline. We know that the entire PC market is down on unit sales and we're witnessing AIB graphics card price drops at retail and expanded product availability.

If you are a swing trader, a strong consideration is picking up some shares of NVDA today which is currently -6% or so.
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#3
Unregistered
I feel like more and more people just aren't paying the prices being asked due to how insanely high they've been. I know I used to order a pair of new GPUs pretty much every cycle release and the last couple releases I've been making use of the second hand market and will continue to do so moving forward until prices move back down to reality.
#4
TheDeeGee
As usual blaming gamers again ^^
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#5
cvaldes
Razrback16I feel like more and more people just aren't paying the prices being asked due to how insanely high they've been. I know I used to order a pair of new GPUs pretty much every cycle release and the last couple releases I've been making use of the second hand market and will continue to do so moving forward until prices move back down to reality.
You can forget about graphics cards at pre-2019 prices. Inflation is making that a non-starter as well as other COVID-19 related supply chain issues (like container shipping costs going up 5-6x in the past two years).

And you know NVIDIA and AMD aren't going to hack off huge chunks of gross margin.

You're going to buying used cards for years.
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#6
Unregistered
cvaldesYou can forget about graphics cards at pre-2019 prices. Inflation is making that a non-starter as well as other COVID-19 related supply chain issues (like container shipping costs going up 5-6x in the past two years).

And you know NVIDIA and AMD aren't going to hack off huge chunks of gross margin.

You're going to buying used cards for years.
And I am totally cool with that. Happy to just buy 2nd and even 3rd hand if I have to. Not paying the ridiculous prices they are asking and I suspect many are in the same boat with me given the #s here.
#7
Daven
Nvidia made more than double the data center revenue than AMD ($3.81B v. $1.49B but only slightly higher gaming revenue ($2.0B vs $1.66B). Is this some kind of bizarro world?
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#8
DeeJay1001
DavenNvidia made more than double the data center revenue than AMD ($3.81B v. $1.49B but only slightly higher gaming revenue ($2.0B vs $1.66B). Is this some kind of bizarro world?
I wonder if Nvidia selling RTX cards directly to large mining operations is now considered "data center" revenue.
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#9
qcmadness
DavenNvidia made more than double the data center revenue than AMD ($3.81B v. $1.49B but only slightly higher gaming revenue ($2.0B vs $1.66B). Is this some kind of bizarro world?
NVIDIA bought AMD Epyc systems with ram and SSD and then packages with their own card and sells for high prices.
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#10
BArms
DavenNvidia made more than double the data center revenue than AMD ($3.81B v. $1.49B but only slightly higher gaming revenue ($2.0B vs $1.66B). Is this some kind of bizarro world?
I'm not (too) surprised, both AMD and Nvidia were selling every single card they could manufacture in the last 2 years so apparently Nvidia wasn't able to procure that many more chips than AMD in that time.
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#11
cvaldes
DavenNvidia made more than double the data center revenue than AMD ($3.81B v. $1.49B but only slightly higher gaming revenue ($2.0B vs $1.66B). Is this some kind of bizarro world?
No, NVIDIA has better machine learning technology than AMD for deep learning operations.

NVIDIA also has the BlueField DPU, derived from technologies acquired from Mellanox back in 2019. They are working on a datacenter CPU codenamed Grace for anticipated release in 2023.

Remember that NVIDIA is much more than GeForce.
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#12
Daven
cvaldesNo, NVIDIA has better machine learning technology than AMD for deep learning operations.

NVIDIA also has the BlueField DPU, derived from technologies acquired from Mellanox back in 2019. They are working on a datacenter CPU codenamed Grace for anticipated release in 2023.

Remember that NVIDIA is much more than GeForce.
I was half heartingly joking at the irony that a CPU company is making headway in games and a GPU company is making headway in data center. Big change from ten years ago.
DeeJay1001I wonder if Nvidia selling RTX cards directly to large mining operations is now considered "data center" revenue.
I like the way you think. That’s called creative accounting. Lol!
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#13
john_


Nvidia is a one foot giant. It will cost them that they couldn't buy ARM. And that's good, because now they will have to focus back to the gamer. Not the gamer's pocket, but the gamer. They'll have to win the gamer again. Until now I was thinking that Nvidia will start 4070 at $800 and 4080 at $1000 if not more. Now there is a chance they'll play nicely.
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#14
rainzor
BArmsI'm not (too) surprised, both AMD and Nvidia were selling every single card they could manufacture in the last 2 years so apparently Nvidia wasn't able to procure that many more chips than AMD in that time.
It's because AMD gaming revenue includes GPUs + console chips. They are no where near Nvidia in discrete graphics sales.
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#15
Daven
rainzorIt's because AMD gaming revenue includes GPUs + console chips. They are no where near Nvidia in discrete graphics sales.
Lucky for Nvidia every $1 earned on discrete GPUs have higher value than every $1 earned on console chips. Oh wait…
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#16
cvaldes
rainzorIt's because AMD gaming revenue includes GPUs + console chips. They are no where near Nvidia in discrete graphics sales.
Nvidia supplies the Tegra SoC to Nintendo for the Switch gaming console. Guess which videogame console dwarfs the others in hardware unit sales?
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#17
mechtech
Compared to pre-covid those are Record Profits though.
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#18
rainzor
DavenLucky for Nvidia every $1 earned on discrete GPUs have higher value than every $1 earned on console chips. Oh wait…
Considering 11% margin AMD makes on gaming, it kinda does.
cvaldesNvidia supplies the Tegra SoC to Nintendo for the Switch gaming console. Guess which videogame console dwarfs the others in hardware unit sales?
Tegra does not fall under gaming revenue, though. Tegra => OEM.
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#19
cvaldes
rainzorTegra does not fall under gaming revenue, though. Tegra => OEM.
Interesting. Now I'm wondering if Nvidia puts Shield revenue under OEM/Other. Not that Shield unit sales are significant, just wondering which business unit they are shoving this revenue under.

That makes more sense why Nvidia and AMD's gaming revenues are similar. AMD is making up their lesser PC GPU sales with console APU sales. Nvidia on the other hand is all PC GPU sales regardless whether its OEM/system builder, DIY, or crypto under its Gaming business unit.

I know Nvidia has a separate Professional Visualization business unit for other GPU sales.
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#20
zlobby
cvaldesNvidia supplies the Tegra SoC to Nintendo for the Switch gaming console. Guess which videogame console dwarfs the others in hardware unit sales?
Steam Deck?
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#21
Garrus
cvaldesNvidia supplies the Tegra SoC to Nintendo for the Switch gaming console. Guess which videogame console dwarfs the others in hardware unit sales?
First of all the Switch SoC is almost a 10 year old cellphone chip basically, nVidia is not making money there selling them for a few dollars each. Secondly you seemingly missed that AMD on average profits more than 2 to 1 because of volume and higher pricing. That's because Sony AND Microsoft use AMD, both. The home console market is much larger than the portable market (Sony and Microsoft usually sell twice as much as Nintendo before the shortage of PS5s etc). Even now, 450,000 home consoles sold every week versus 300,000 portables. And there is tons of supply that is on the shelves unsold for Nintendo and sales are dropping fast, meanwhile console sales are supply limited.

Your take is the opposite of reality.
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#22
trsttte
DeeJay1001I wonder if Nvidia selling RTX cards directly to large mining operations is now considered "data center" revenue.
We'll know in about 2 to 3 years when another investor lawsuit about it gets settled :D
cvaldesNvidia supplies the Tegra SoC to Nintendo for the Switch gaming console. Guess which videogame console dwarfs the others in hardware unit sales?
Actually the PS5 has been gaining a lot of ground and in the past year the sales are not that far off (which means when summed with xbox sales AMD dwarfs nvidia in console sales)


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#23
Vayra86
DavenNvidia made more than double the data center revenue than AMD ($3.81B v. $1.49B but only slightly higher gaming revenue ($2.0B vs $1.66B). Is this some kind of bizarro world?
It places an understandable, and different perspective on the supposed popularity of RTX.

Not that popular apparently, given the fact its competitor can push almost as much product without real RT capability. In a way, that includes the consoles too, because they carry PC gaming's product portfolio, and especially would carry one spiced up with RT. Its clear the PC doesn't, on its own.

Goes to show its actually really all about the games, and whatever cards can run them proper.

In terms of the AMD-Nvidia war this is quite a substantial thing. AMD is clawing back share without a feature lead - that's remarkable and not seen before, if I recall correctly.
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#24
trsttte
GarrusFirst of all the Switch SoC is almost a 10 year old cellphone chip basically, nVidia is not making money there selling them for a few dollars each. Secondly you seemingly missed that AMD on average profits more than 2 to 1 because of volume and higher pricing. That's because Sony AND Microsoft use AMD, both. The home console market is much larger than the portable market (Sony and Microsoft usually sell twice as much as Nintendo before the shortage of PS5s etc). Even now, 450,000 home consoles sold every week versus 300,000 portables. And there is tons of supply that is on the shelves unsold for Nintendo and sales are dropping fast, meanwhile console sales are supply limited.

Your take is the opposite of reality.
I wounldn't put the situation as dire as you describe for Nintendo, they're still shipping a hole of a lot more consoles now than they were in the 2 years after launch. It's kind of crazy if you ask me, like you said, it's a very old SOC that wasn't that powerfull when it launched let alone now, but it's still somehow moving a ton of units :confused:
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#25
Vayra86
trsttteI wounldn't put the situation as dire as you describe for Nintendo, they're still shipping a hole of a lot more consoles now than they were in the 2 years after launch. It's kind of crazy if you ask me, like you said, it's a very old SOC that wasn't that powerfull when it launched let alone now, but it's still somehow moving a ton of units :confused:
Nintendo is another prime example that graphics don't matter much :)
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