Monday, August 29th 2022

Latest Ryzen 9 7950X CPU-Z Bench MultiThreaded Score Puts it 8% Behind i9-13900K, 33% Ahead of i9-12900K

A screenshot of an alleged AMD Ryzen 9 7950X "Zen 4" processor surfaced on the web, courtesy of OneRaichu, and this time there's no blur-out with the score field—15645 points. When compared to the alleged CPU-Z Bench scores of the Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" from last week, the Intel 8P+16E hybrid processor ends up 7.9% faster than this score, but still a very close second.

The Ryzen 9 7950X ends up a significant 23.47% faster than the leaked score of the Core i7-13700K (8P+8E), and the AMD flagship scores 33.5% faster than the previous-gen Intel flagship Core i9-12900K. While both the i7-13700K and i9-12900K are 8P+8E, the "Raptor Lake" gets ahead with higher IPC for the P-cores, slightly higher clocks, and more cache for the E-core clusters. The 7950X is also 32.12% faster than its predecessor, the Ryzen 9 5950X "Zen 3," and a whopping 58.39% faster than the Core i7-12700K (8P+4E).
One can begin to explain Intel's lead with its core-count of 24. The "Gracemont" E-cores are no slouch, and in our "Alder Lake" testing, were seen closely trailing the IPC of "Skylake" cores. The "Raptor Lake" as 16 of these, making the processor 24-core/32-thread. The 7950X is a 16-core/32-thread chip in comparison, made entirely up of what Intel would consider P-cores. The net-performance of Intel's 8P and 16E cores ends up slightly ahead of AMD's 16 P-cores.
Source: OneRaichu (Twitter)
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30 Comments on Latest Ryzen 9 7950X CPU-Z Bench MultiThreaded Score Puts it 8% Behind i9-13900K, 33% Ahead of i9-12900K

#26
MarsM4N
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X "Zen 4": 170W TDP / MSRP $699
Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake": 125-228W TPD / listed for $726

Will be a head to head battle. But I bet the performance/W crown goes to AMD. :)
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Mussels
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MarsM4NAMD Ryzen 9 7950X "Zen 4": 170W TDP / MSRP $699
Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake": 125-228W TPD / listed for $726

Will be a head to head battle. But I bet the performance/W crown goes to AMD. :)
careful, the 12th gen owners on the forum will argue with you and tell you that if they dont use all their cores, and use them at lower clock speeds that they're very efficient

(Look i cant understand their logic either)
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watzupken
MarsM4NAMD Ryzen 9 7950X "Zen 4": 170W TDP / MSRP $699
Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake": 125-228W TPD / listed for $726

Will be a head to head battle. But I bet the performance/W crown goes to AMD. :)
The TDP are fake. I believe both AMD and Intel's upcoming CPUs will actually require more power than the supposed TDP. I am keeping tabs on Intel in particular because I am skeptical they can maintain or modestly increase power consumption with the changes on Raptor Lake and on the same 10nm node (whatever they name it). Essentially, they have increased cache substantially, doubled the E-cores, and aggressively increased clockspeed. All these requires more power, particularly with the core count and clock speed increase. Otherwise, there will not be the rumored 350W unlocked power limit.
Musselscareful, the 12th gen owners on the forum will argue with you and tell you that if they dont use all their cores, and use them at lower clock speeds that they're very efficient

(Look i cant understand their logic either)
Being a Zen 3 and Alder Lake user, ADL is indeed efficient when the load is light to moderate. However when the CPU is fully loaded, there is no doubt it starts to guzzle power. In games, not all cores are being utilized and at best moderate load for the CPU, so I believe the efficiency is comparable to Zen 3 since it is generally faster.
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Mussels
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watzupkenThe TDP are fake. I believe both AMD and Intel's upcoming CPUs will actually require more power than the supposed TDP. I am keeping tabs on Intel in particular because I am skeptical they can maintain or modestly increase power consumption with the changes on Raptor Lake and on the same 10nm node (whatever they name it). Essentially, they have increased cache substantially, doubled the E-cores, and aggressively increased clockspeed. All these requires more power, particularly with the core count and clock speed increase. Otherwise, there will not be the rumored 350W unlocked power limit.


Being a Zen 3 and Alder Lake user, ADL is indeed efficient when the load is light to moderate. However when the CPU is fully loaded, there is no doubt it starts to guzzle power. In games, not all cores are being utilized and at best moderate load for the CPU, so I believe the efficiency is comparable to Zen 3 since it is generally faster.
They're not fake - but they aren't total wattages either.
Remember that TDP is meant to be about thermals, not peak wattages.


There have been some very veeeery large discrepancies on some models, however
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#30
1d10t
MusselsI get the feeling AMD says we shouldnt use CPU-Z results


They also listed Geekbench there, vague benchmark that suddenly became "crucial" or "noteworthy" :laugh:
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