Monday, October 17th 2022
AMD Cuts Down Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" Production As Demand Drops Like a Rock
AMD reportedly scaled down production of its Ryzen 7000 series desktop processors in response to bleak demand across the PC hardware industry. Wccftech claims to have read an internal company document calling for reduced supply to the channel as market response to the Ryzen 7000-series is weak. This comes hot on the heels of AMD revising its Q3-2022 forecast, trimming its guidance by a $1 billion drop in revenue, citing weak demand in the PC market. However, we are seeing no deviation from the launch pricing for Ryzen 7000-series SKUs or compatible Socket AM5 motherboards. The platform went on sale from late September, on the same day that Intel announced its competing 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" processors. The new Intel chips are expected to start selling from a little later this month.
Unlike 13th Gen Core processors, Ryzen 7000 series processors appear to be a victim of the platform—notwithstanding the high pricing of the processors, which start at $299 for the 6-core 7600X, buyers lack access to affordable motherboards, and have to contend with expensive DDR5 memory. Pricing of cheaper LGA1700 motherboards based on entry-level H610 and B660 chipsets with cost-effective DDR4 memory support have added depth to consumer choice, besides Intel's 12th Gen range starting from under $150.
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Wccftech
Unlike 13th Gen Core processors, Ryzen 7000 series processors appear to be a victim of the platform—notwithstanding the high pricing of the processors, which start at $299 for the 6-core 7600X, buyers lack access to affordable motherboards, and have to contend with expensive DDR5 memory. Pricing of cheaper LGA1700 motherboards based on entry-level H610 and B660 chipsets with cost-effective DDR4 memory support have added depth to consumer choice, besides Intel's 12th Gen range starting from under $150.
242 Comments on AMD Cuts Down Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" Production As Demand Drops Like a Rock
Having just about everything above the $250 mark, especially from AMD who got known for offering great value with all the $80 B3x/B4x/B5x boards, is a very tough pill to swallow.
Of course, Raptor Lake being so close and Zen4 X3D having been announced to release within a handful of months isn't doing them any favors.
But IMO those motherboards are just way too expensive.
this "you don't have to upgrade" cope doesn't change the fact that the performance uplift is minimal this generation and is only worth it to those that have super outdated systems running pre-AM4 machines or DDR3 setups or those that don't have a PC at all
performance-wise, the jump from 3000 to 5000 is more significant than 5000 to 7000, and that's VERY disappointing, considering that these chips use DDR5
granted the performance uplift is still better than when all AMD had to offer was faildozer, but still...
Also I wonder why they didn’t have mem contrôlée support both ddr4/5 like the old phenomII had for ddr2/3??
Also a lack of nonx parts doesn’t help selection. Gen1 launched with nonx parts.
I was going to upgrade as soon as the new came out but them MB prices, fuck em..
- AM5 motherboards are too expensive
- Mandatory DDR5 means one needs to upgrade both the Mobo and the RAM.
- AM5 motherboards are TOO expensive..
- AM4 coolers are mostly compatible..yay but not enough
The biggest market is gaming:People who game will upgrade to a better GPU in priority. People who already own AM4 will choose AM4 for gaming. A 5800X3D with a low price for instance.
Now in France a 5800X3D is 500EUR.
5600X and 5800X are really priced well, 5950 is 600+ it's too expensive IMO.
So for a new powerful build in Europe it's not totally crazy to pick AM5 with a 7600X for instance, ONLY for productivity and games that are CPU intensive like flight simulator, otherwise 5600X/5800X is plenty and faaar cheaper.
The prices are expected to go down, but it might take longer than expected.
Also, while it is true that Ryzen 5000 was the fastest CPU then, but honestly, if you get one of the Ryzen 7000 CPU now, it is still factually still one of the fastest. Perhaps Raptor Lake may change that, but it still doesn’t change the fact that Ryzen 7000 is still a very fast CPU. Intel can slap 16 or 24 or 32 E-cores in there. While the helped bump up multithreaded performance, the E-cores spamming don’t do anything meaningful for you if you are using the chip for gaming. They just look great when showing you numbers. Even in light us case where only E-cores are being used, I generally don’t think you need anything more than 4 cores for light usage. Make no mistake, I am using an Alder Lake CPU now, so please don’t assume I am defending AMD because I am some AMD fanboy. I have outgrown this fanboyism and learned to buy what I need and best value for money.
AMD should have pushed for more reasonable motherboard prices, a 5,10% more would be acceptable but 100%+ is plain stupidity.
They should reduce price of both CPU and Motherboard. I also think the next best thing they should do before Zen 4 X3D is a Highly clock 1 CCD for gamers, the real 5800x that boost as high or higher than the 5950x.
Higher core counts is still not required and 8 core with SMT it still plenty enough as long as they are fast enough.
But the thing is they want to have the higher core count to bench better in most benchmark. For that it need to clock higher than the single CCD sku.