Thursday, November 3rd 2022

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Performance Claims Extrapolated, Performs Within Striking Distance of RTX 4090

AMD on Thursday launched the Radeon RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT RDNA3 graphics cards. With these, the company claims to have repeated its feat of a 50+ percent performance/Watt gain over the previous-generation, which propelled the RX 6000-series to competitiveness with NVIDIA's fastest RTX 30-series SKUs. AMD's performance claims for the Radeon RX 7900 XTX put the card at anywhere between 50% to 70% faster than the company's current flagship, the RX 6950 XT, when tested at 4K UHD resolution. Digging through these claims, and piecing together relevant information from the Endnotes, HXL was able to draw an extrapolated performance comparison between the RX 7900 XTX, the real-world tested RTX 4090, and previous-generation flagships RTX 3090 Ti and RX 6950 XT.

The graphs put the Radeon RX 7900 XTX menacingly close to the GeForce RTX 4090. In Watch_Dogs Legion, the RTX 4090 is 6.4% faster than the RX 7900 XTX. Cyberpunk 2077 and Metro Exodus see the two cards evenly matched, with a delta under 1%. The RTX 4090 is 4.4% faster with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II (2022). Accounting for the pinch of salt usually associated with launch-date first-party performance claims; the RX 7900 XTX would end up within 5-10% of the RTX 4090, but pricing changes everything. The RTX 4090 is a $1,599 (MSRP) card, whereas the RX 7900 XTX is $999. Assuming the upcoming RTX 4080 (16 GB) is around 10% slower than the RTX 4090; the main clash for this generation will be between the RTX 4080 and RX 7900 XTX. Even here, AMD gets ahead with pricing, as the RTX 4080 was announced with an MSRP of $1,199 (exactly 20% pricier than the RX 7900 XTX). With the FSR 3.0 Fluid Motion announcement, AMD also blunted NVIDIA's DLSS 3 Frame Generation performance advantage.
Source: harukaze5719 (Twitter)
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164 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Performance Claims Extrapolated, Performs Within Striking Distance of RTX 4090

#26
N/A
FSR in 8K ultra wide means it is double 1440P upscaled mode 1440 side by side, so this means 4K in terms of raw pixel count.
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#27
Zach_01
djuiceYes, you are correct.



Also AMD seems to be from the future, November 28, 2022..
BTW the 8K reference is not really 8K (7680x4320 = 33M pixels) but a widescreen 8K (7680x2160 = 16.5M pixels)
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#28
Space Lynx
Astronaut
oddly enough my new NZXT monitor actually does support type c. might give that a go, be weird having my monitor and gpu hooked up type c to type c.

does anyone know if freesync is still supported over type c connection?
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#29
tracker1
If the RTX performance exceeds 3080… will probably go team red in the spring for my next GPU.
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#30
Zubasa
CallandorWoToddly enough my new NZXT monitor actually does support type c. might give that a go, be weird having my monitor and gpu hooked up type c to type c.

does anyone know if freesync is still supported over type c connection?
It should, becuase the underlying protocal is still Display Port.
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#31
fancucker
Honestly the fact they didn't compare it directly to the 4090 shows you it's beneath it. And the aggressive pricing tells the story of the bad ray tracing performance. Pretty much another Nvidia win across the board this generation. Sorry AMD.
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#32
brutlern
"Assuming the upcoming RTX 4080 (16 GB) is around 10% slower than the RTX 4090".... In what universe? The 4090 has over 60% more cores than the 4080. The 4080 is going to have a hard time beating the 3090 ti, let alone get anywhere close to the 4090. I really hope that 10% is a typo there, it should be more like 40-50%.
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#33
Lovec1990
fancuckerHonestly the fact they didn't compare it directly to the 4090 shows you it's beneath it. And the aggressive pricing tells the story of the bad ray tracing performance. Pretty much another Nvidia win across the board this generation. Sorry AMD.
Thats yet to be seen tho. It may not beat 4090 but if 7900 XTX come close enough to it and is cheaper and offers less heat and power usage it will be a win
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#34
usiname
ir_cowIts probably with FSR on. Now lets see the gap when DLSS 2.0 / 3.0 is used :)
So by your logic 7900xtx with FSR ON is 50-60% faster than 6950xt with FRS OFF? I might disappoint you, but 7900xtx does not need FSR to be 50-60% faster than 6950xt.
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#35
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
Clearly it's not as fast as the 4090. The slides say enough. But, I'm nore interested in the value proposition, so if this is better than the 4080, and cheaper... No brainer for me, I'd switch to AMD*, first time since I had 7970's.
*Assuming they're not overpriced in the UK.
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#36
jesdals
Zach_01BTW the 8K reference is not really 8K (7680x4320 = 33M pixels) but a widescreen 8K (7680x2160 = 16.5M pixels)
Playing in 7680x1440 I would be happy with 1,5 performance uplift over 6900xt
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#37
Keivz
kongaThe Metro Exodus "4K High" numbers here are highly suspect. In TPU's own review, they found the 4090 to be 2.5x the 6950 XT. So why is the performance so low here?
Indeed. And in what planet does the 4090 get only 8 fps more than a 3090 ti in RT? Insane how someone with an even modicum knowledge of gpu power would allow this slide out for public consumption. It like LTT all over again. Laughable.
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#38
Wasteland
fancuckerHonestly the fact they didn't compare it directly to the 4090 shows you it's beneath it. And the aggressive pricing tells the story of the bad ray tracing performance. Pretty much another Nvidia win across the board this generation. Sorry AMD.
Why would AMD compare the performance of its $1,000 card to that of a $1,600 card? The real competition is the 4080 at $1,200, which hasn't released yet--and frankly that card already looked like a value turd based on Nvidia's own marketing, before AMD made its announcement.

But really both companies have to show something at a much lower price point before we make declarations about who won "across the board." It looks like both Green and Red are more interested in preserving profit margins on their backlog of last-gen cards than they are in Ada/RDNA 3, ATM. With this launch, both companies are top-heavy to a degree that is unprecedented.
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#39
Gica
I'm waiting for the tests. I don't see how you can compare now.
If AMD announced $999 for flaghsip, it surely has some weaknesses (RT, productivity, who knows). As for the processors, while they were in the top with the 5000 series, they raised the prices sky high.
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#40
JustBenching
Outback BronzeHopefully needs a lot less power to get those numbers too.
Im afraid thats not true. The 4090 usually stays below 400w, unless you are running heavy RT games like cyberpunk
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#41
GunShot
What's suspicious about these FANS(?) numbers, is that, clearly NVIDIA had shocked AMD, again, with its day-0 launch for DLSS 3 w/Reflex, FG, etc. out the gate, and seems like AMD had nothing to compete with this tech, again, at NVIDIA's prowess. So, at the very last minute that was winding down for AMD to reveal its 7000 series GPUS, AMD must've, in my opinion, came up with FSR3 and
HYPR-RX (DLSS and Reflex, and FG rival) that AMD HAD to come up with fast.

What flavours this bit is that there are now reports that FSR3, etc will not be deployed until the 1H23 (which ends June 30th) and possibly falling into the 3Q23!

Yeah, something is very clear here alright and that is, AMD was not ready for today after witnessing Lovelace launch.

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#42
kmetek
4090 here is way over 2000€
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#43
Toss
4080 is DOA garbage, mark my word
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#44
MarsM4N
Tsukiyomi91a 4080 16GB killer for $200 less. Hopefully it's not another paper launch coz if it is, don't think anyone will bother picking up a RX7xxx Series GPU anytime soon.
If Moore's Law Is Dead's sources are right, the only paper launch here will be the RTX4080. 20-40% less day 1 stock & less resupplies than the RTX4090, LOL. :oops: Assuming it's not getting "unlaunched" (like the RTX4080 12GB) to save face from getting slapped around by cheaper AMD cards, lol.

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#45
FreedomOfSpeech
"Assuming the upcoming RTX 4080 (16 GB) is around 10% slower than the RTX 4090"

9700 Shader vs 16000 Shader and only 10% slower? The 4080 will be 20% faster then the 3090ti. So the 7900XTX will leave the 4080 behind it.
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#46
andreiga76
fevgatosIm afraid thats not true. The 4090 usually stays below 400w, unless you are running heavy RT games like cyberpunk
And if you lower the max power to 80% you get a max power of ~350W with only real 5% performance loss in all heavy RT games, 4090 is a real overclocked card.
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#47
medi01
N/A4080 is at least 33% slower than 4090.
And at least $200 more expensive than 7900XTX (darn, I hate that naming convention)
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#48
PrecisionApps
Assuming 4080 16GB to have just %10 less performance of a 4090 is an overestimation of gigantic proportions. We’re talking about a card with ~%40 less raw compute power. Since it has about the same clocks, I guess the real world performance would scale more evenly and put it %20-%25 below the 4090. This makes 7900xtx really good value.
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#49
Bomby569
Zach_01BTW the 8K reference is not really 8K (7680x4320 = 33M pixels) but a widescreen 8K (7680x2160 = 16.5M pixels)
don't you mean widescreen 4k?
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#50
sephiroth117
Whilst I have no doubt it will be a very solid competitor to the 4080 16GB.. I think it's really not on the same market than the 1600$ 4090, it's really absurd to compare them, not the same price range at all and one GPU has a 100W lower TDP..

The 4090 is going to be something like 10-30% depending on games in front and will be crushing it in raytracing. Does that warrant an extra 600$ ? That's up to you to ask that but not it's not going to be "at striking distance", let's be real, extrapolating marketing claims is useless, just like they were with Nvidia, we need independent reviews and that's in a month.
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