wolfThe SAM debarkle - making an unused part of an existing spec seem like their invention and originally gatekeeping support.
Ryzen 5000 on pre 5 series chipsets debarkle and caving
The 6500XT. What an insult.
Zen 3 and 4 pricing for 6 core models
7900XT pricing to upsell the 7900XTX

Half of this seems to be pure "I don't like the pricing", which all the vendors have had their "issues" with.

It's not like they have made a partnership program with AiB's that exclude their competitor.... (www.techpowerup.com/243921/nvidia-ends-controversial-geforce-partner-program-gpp)
or paid OEM not to use the competitor(fortune.com/2007/02/15/suit-intel-paid-dell-up-to-1-billion-a-year-not-to-use-amd-chips/)


The exact same upsell argument I've seen loads more on next gen AMD's (XT/XTX) and Nvidia (4080/90)

Pricing in general, from tech sites and MSRP. I really can't care about.
MSRP can be somewhat sometimes almost usable for a price indicator, but 3000-series release+crypto show have shown that doesn't necessarily matter (inb4 AMD fanboy)

prices in general doesn't match, and I need to check local anyways. It's all make believe in regard to MSRP (+tax) anyways

lol.

Nvidia site stock appeared in UK at 14:00. I watched. Never pressed 'buy' because I'm not interested in buying at that price. Out of stock within 20 seconds. Cue eBay sales.

Glad I got my 3080ti for way under MSRP, when new cards were selling at their lowest (which is NOT now, sadly).

The only reason I'd upgrade is to get full resolution (instead of 50% resolution scale) playing Assetto Corsa with rain and weather effects in VR on my Reverb G2 V2 at a constant 90fps.

Currently I'm hooked on Red Dead Redemption 2, which will take a while and even runs fine at 4k (gotta love VRR/Gsync compatibility on some TVs) with DLSS on my 3070ti.

NVIDIA is nuts selling the 4080 at this price.

Nvidia is trying to get suckers to buy this before ATI can get theirs to market and I hope they do sell a lot.

ZoneDymoI hope you scrolled purely indeed for that availability info, I cant imagine anyone willing to risk their hard earned cash with Newegg again.....good luck never getting your multiple hundred dollar product and not being able to do anything about it.....

I actually brought my 4090 from Newegg at launch and sold my 3080 10gb on ebay for $700 after the 4090 arrived. So the net cost of the 4090 was $1000, cheaper than the $4080.

Well, 6 plus hours after they went live, Scan (UK) has plenty in stock. This hints at a far lower level of bot-scalping. Perhaps other sites had minimal inventory? Regardless, I sit with my wallet (as such) closed and await the 7900 XT(X).

Or the possible inevitability that Nvidia will have to drop prices if the AMD cards are competitve and several hundred pounds cheaper.

Audioave10Unless you play at 4k, I see no reason to even consider such a purchase price. All I see are cartoon online games coming out.
You would still lose frames from poor server support and dropouts on most always-online games. The guys that stream GTA 5
as "racing games" have all kinds of lag spikes and dropped frames with 30 players in a race.

You don't look very hard then do you.

I feel sad mostly for the work put in to reviewing in detail all those untouchable products.
Maybe there are more ppl like me who stuck to their 1080TI for so long just to be excited as seeing a rock when looking at those disgusting products.
You buy, you feed the massive greed of those despicable individuals.

cowcatwithahatI feel sad mostly for the work put in to reviewing in detail all those untouchable products.
Maybe there are more ppl like me who stuck to their 1080TI for so long just to be excited as seeing a rock when looking at those disgusting products.
You buy, you feed the massive greed of those despicable individuals.

Maybe if you a bit more patient, push the purchase back some months and see the Navi 32 or Navi 33 offerings like Radeon RX 7700 XT / Radeon RX 7800 XT / Radeon RX 7600 XT something.
I see that currently even the Radeon RX 670(5)0 is a 30% performance upgrade for you.

ZoneDymoPlus look at hubs coverage of xess, its plainly obvious why it only works on RTX cards, nobody would benefit, not nvidia, not the customers."

that last sentense I dont get, intel's xess only works on RTX cards? and nobody would benefit if that was not the case?

No, it's that xess on cards that don't have arc architecture and xmx instructions, is terrible. It performs badly and has visual shortcomings. Compared to the xmx instruction version, the dp4a version perofms and looks so much worse that it's not worth using on dp4a (anything other than Intelc ards) for people and that hurts the xess name, because the good version and bad version are called the same thing. For non arc owners, using it makes virtually no sense, and it would be the same situation for dlss. Makes perfect sense why they didn't open up their market leading solution, as is business.

ZoneDymooriginall gatekeeping support", what exactly do you mean by that?

They they tried to gatekeep it working on only their CPU's, or at the very least mislead people into believeing that.

ZoneDymoAnd yes mods, we are getting off topic, ill leave it for DM's after this.

I'm done, I made my point, you think Nvidia is worse, I think AMD does shit things too, I'm equally as disgusted, and would easily take advantage even more if they had the outright lead, my bar for corporate bullshit is low, and all 3 players have somersaulted right over it, so I don't really care all that much, I just look at the products and don't self impose a restriction on who I'll buy from, or I'd buy from none. I certainly won't just not criticise AMD when they do shit things either, or NVidia (fuck the 4080 price!), or Intel.

Happy to agree to disagree.

big_glassesHalf of this seems to be pure "I don't like the pricing

And the other half? None of y'all have to agree, but I have certainly seen the BS they're capable of too, and that's when they're not in the lead.., so I suppose living in NVidia's shadow has its benefits, nothing they do looks as bad and can be excused it would seem.

Everything they do is geared to maximise profits, even the things that appear to be brimming with good will, its all in hopes they get more of your money. So again, I look only at individual products and base my assessment of the performance, price, features merits etc and don't really consider the rest.

Day isn't over yet, but according to my local MicroCenter's site, they still have 4080 stock.


I wonder how accurate their site is and how many of these actual cards they have of each model.

Hopefully they don't sell out and cards sit to collect dust....eh, but who am I kidding? Lots of stupid people out there, they'll all sell by tomorrow.

www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4080-gv-n4080eagle-oc-16gd/p/N82E16814932562
GIGABYTE EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4080 16GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card $1,239.99

Update at my local Micro Center. They still have 55 4080s in stock. Either they got a crap ton of them and sold a bunch and are left with a small amount or people haven't shown as much interest in this card. I'd like to think that my local Micro Center only sold about half of what they got in and hopefully the rest just sit and fester.



**UPDATE**
Looks like people must have been returning their 4080s because 4 hours after Micro Center has opened their doors today, they now have more in stock. HAHAHA!
(okay, okay....logic dictates that Micro Center probably got another shipment in of more cards)

Nobody said about 12VHPWR cable stability.... No claims, same RTX 4090 (30 registered melted cable at the moment)?

Yep. I ll also buy a Radeon RX 7900.

ARFMaybe if you a bit more patient, push the purchase back some months and see the Navi 32 or Navi 33 offerings like Radeon RX 7700 XT / Radeon RX 7800 XT / Radeon RX 7600 XT something.
I see that currently even the Radeon RX 670(5)0 is a 30% performance upgrade for you.

Thank you for the advice!
I waited for this amount of time because I wanted a replacement that will push at least 60FPS at 4K.
Meanwhile the PS5 was a solid companion in my demon carving training.