AusWolf"I'm not sure... possible... I guess... seems to be... I have a feeling..." This is all his own subjective opinion based on nothing (a sample size of 4 known to be faulty cards?), but considering the views and likes on the video, a lot of people seem to be moved by it, which is sad. Giving personal opinion as a conclusion, especially at the end of an investigatory video is unprofessional, and wrong. If you don't have facts, then don't say anything. And yes, "AMD is in BIG trouble" is the textbook definition of clickbait. AMD would be right to sue for reputation damage.

Regardless of his "feelings" and "guesses", the solution is clear as day: AMD has to do a proper investigation on the matter, and then issue a statement on what happens next. There's a proper way of handling a mass fault / recall. There always has been. One person's "feelings" don't change that, especially someone's who has zero clue on how widespread the problem is.

Dirt ChipI don`s think you understand what I wrote- the 4 sample size is not what he base the recall on. It just used to isolate the problem.
He confirmed 40 more cases and thousands reporting the issue- those are his words.

His findings are not nothing, how can you say that if it moved AMD and others to investigate more?
He have facts - abnormally behaving cards - and with that he speculate further according to his experience and knowledge about vapor chamber and the industry- a valid thing to do as long as it is clear (and it is to me) that it`s your opinion and not truth from god himself.

Dirt ChipWe are very much in agreement that this issue must be replicated by others before any actual recall will take place.

AusWolfEdit: I quickly skimmed through the video (20 minutes is too long to watch so early in the morning). He based his entire findings on the delta between hotspot and junction temp. He indicated that at some point, the delta drops, and the cards start to throttle. Earlier in the video, he shows that even though the cards reach max hotspot quite early, the junction temp starts to rise later, and that leads to the delta dropping... So... if the junction temp has room to rise, then where is the throttle? What are the clock speeds and power consumption? Has he run any stress test that give you an actual indication of the cards throttling? We don't know.



Edit: He claims a voltage and power consumption decrease. Does this manifest in decrease in performance too? Again, we don't know.

Dirt ChipYou are right, I also wondered on that slide and he might be mistaken with interpretation here. The delta lower because the average rise and the hotspot stay the same. But it still can`t explain the "flip test" findings.

I really can`t wait to others validating or disproof it.

AusWolfYou can add together anecdotal stories and do a proper investigation. Gamer's Nexus is famous for doing that. But the investigation has to end with a proper conclusion based on facts, and not "feelings".

Edit: I quickly skimmed through the video (20 minutes is too long to watch so early in the morning). He based his entire findings on the delta between hotspot and junction temp. He indicated that at some point, the delta drops, and the cards start to throttle. Earlier in the video, he shows that even though the cards reach max hotspot quite early, the junction temp starts to rise later, and that leads to the delta dropping... So... if the junction temp has room to rise, then where is the throttle? What are the clock speeds and power consumption? Has he run any stress test that give you an actual indication of the cards throttling? We don't know.



Edit: He claims a voltage and power consumption decrease. Does this manifest in decrease in performance too? Again, we don't know.

TumbleGeorgeIt has been confirmed that with some manual voltage reduction, these pre-factory overclocked PC components now run at reduced power consumption and temperatures without losing any performance. Such a loss begins again when a certain limit is passed in the reduction, and usually even then the loss of performance cannot really be felt by the average user in everyday life. But it can be measured by running tests.

SuspectoHe published a 20 min long video explaining the methodology and how he had come to the conclusion. I usually read a thesis then think about the conclusion instead of complaining that I can't be bothered to watch 20 min long video and then spending even more time in total by writing messages and making screenshots about something I haven't watched yet. Seriously?

AusWolfSkimming through the video was enough to conclude that the data I'm looking for is not there. I watched the useful parts, but I'm not interested in personal speculation. My time is more precious than that.

Thanks for commenting.

SuspectoYou haven't watched the entire video so you can't know what is there and what isn't and which parts are actually useful and which aren't. Everything that you produced, is your own speculation because of not judging the complete data set and not knowing what is in it so you concluded it had NOT been there in the first place. The irony.

AusWolfEdit: He claims a voltage and power consumption decrease. Does this manifest in decrease in performance too? Again, we don't know.

OfficerTuxStill would be nice to see the achieved FPS and Clocks of the card though.

AusWolfExactly. Claiming something and proving it are different things.

Bomby569The hardest materials in the world are diamonds and the unwillingness of AMD fans to admit any problem

Zyll GoliatOk here is the latest de8auer video......

Zyll GoliatOk here is the latest de8auer video......

Dirt ChipTL;DR
Structure seems fine, might be not enough H2O inside.

zlobbyAMD's has bad coolers?

Vya DomusAMD is not making coolers. They design them, the manufacturing is not done by them.

bobsledThanks for the summary, saved a watch.

zlobbyYet some of their (AMD's) cards allegedly have bad(ly performing) coolers.

And of course AMD is not manufacturing coolers. Heck, they stopped making the chips themselves a long time ago.

I'd argue even that AMD could be paying for someone to design the coolers for them, just as they do with chipsets.

Dirt Chipso far ~25% of 223 vote they have this issue.