Tuesday, January 3rd 2023

Intel Launches Lower-Priced 13th Gen Core Desktop Processors with 65W

Intel today expanded its 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" Socket LGA1700 desktop processor family with several new 65 W mainstream models. These include all the SKUs that lack an unlocked multiplier, aren't meant for CPU overclocking, and come with slightly lower frequencies and tighter power-management than the unlocked K-series SKUs the company debuted the series with in 2022. The retail packages of these processors include stock Intel fan-heatsinks similar to those the company includes with its 12th Gen "Alder Lake" 65 W processors.

The series is led by the Core i9-13900, an 8P+16E core processor with P-core base frequency of 2.00 GHz, P-core maximum boost frequency of 5.60 GHz, E-core base frequency of 1.50 GHz and 4.20 GHz; and the full 36 MB of L3 cache available on the silicon. The processor base power value is 65 W, and the maximum turbo power is 219 W. Intel lists the MSRP of these processors at $550, a variant without integrated graphics, the i9-13900F, can be had for $524. The Core i7-13700 positioned a notch below, is an 8P+8E processor, with a P-core boost frequency of up to 5.20 GHz, a slightly better 2.10 GHz E-core boost, 30 MB of L3 cache, and the same 219 W MTP value. The i7-13700 is priced at $384, and the iGPU-disabled.
Things get very interesting with the way Intel sub-segmented the 13th Gen Core i5 series. The unlocked K-series 13th Gen Core i5 chips are 6P+8E, based on the same "Raptor Lake-S" silicon as the other K-series SKUs, with two each of P-cores and E-core clusters disabled. The locked Core i5 chips appear to be very different looking at their "total L2 cache" counts mentioned in the Intel specs. The Core i5-13600 and i5-13500 are 6P+8E SKUs, while the i5-13400 and i5-13400F are 6P+4E. This is a clever move by Intel to prevent the i5-13400/F from soaking up all sales away from the i5-13500/13600. But the question remains on their L2 cache sizes.

The i5-13500 and i5-13600 come with 11.5 MB of total L2 cache, which is only possible if the L2 cache per P-core is 1.25 MB (like the "Golden Cove" cores on "Alder Lake" chips, and if the L2 cache per "Gracemont" E-core cluster is 2 MB. These are in sharp contrast to the Core i5-13600K, which has 2 MB L2 cache per P-core, and 4 MB L2 cache per E-core cluster. There had been rumors that 13th Gen Core i5 and Core i3 65 W processors are based on the older "Alder Lake" architecture with generational increases in CPU core-counts; but Intel wouldn't confirm this. The L2 caches certainly seem to suggest that this is the case.

The Core i5-13600 is a 6P+8E chip with its P-cores clocked up to 5.00 GHz, E-cores up to 2.70 GHz; whereas the i5-13500 has slightly lower clock speeds of up to 4.80 GHz P-core boost, and up to 2.50 GHz E-core boost. The shared L3 cache size is set at 24 MB. Both models come with 65 W processor base power, and 154 W maximum turbo power values. The i5-13600 is priced at $255, and the i5-13500 at $232.

The Core i5-13400 and i5-13400F, as we mentioned, are 6P+4E chips. Both come with P-core boost frequencies of up to 4.60 GHz, E-core boost up to 2.50 GHz, and a shared L3 cache size of 20 MB. The i5-13400 is priced at $221 or just $11 away from getting four more E-cores and a little more L3 cache with the i5-13500; while the iGPU-disabled i5-13400F goes for $196. Both these chips have their maximum turbo power set at 148 W.
The only two Core i3 SKUs with this generation are the Core i3-13100 and i3-13100F, and are 4P+0E chips that are very likely based on the 6P+0E "Alder Lake" with two P-cores disabled. Each of the four P-cores gets 1.25 MB L2 cache, and the four P-cores share 12 MB of L3 cache. The i3-13100 is priced at $134, and the i3-13100F at $109. The i3-13100 has 65 W base power and 89 W maximum turbo power, while the i3-13100F lacks iGPU, and has a slightly lower base power of 58 W. Both chips have their P-core boost frequency set up to 4.50 GHz.

Besides these, Intel introduced a small lineup of 13th Gen Core i9, Core i7, Core i5, and Core i3 T-series power-efficient SKUs, with their base power set at 35 W, and maximum turbo power set significantly lower than the non-T parts, ranging between 69 W to 106 W, which should mean aggressive power-management that's as tight as H-segment mobile processors.
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37 Comments on Intel Launches Lower-Priced 13th Gen Core Desktop Processors with 65W

#26
Lovec1990
i wonder will 13700 also be able to operate in 220w/220w instead of in 65w/220w
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#27
Gica
RMXSo the "P" cores in these are "Alder Lake" generation based? So basically a rebrand from the 12th Gen versions + some E cores added?
Yeap.
From what I can see, a 13500 is fighting with a 12600K at a lower price. The good part is that the 13 non-k series will put pressure on the entire 12 series.
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#28
TheinsanegamerN
WolfkinSome weird pricing going on here.

13400 --> 13500, 200mhz increase P-cores and E-cores, 4 more E-cores, 4MB L3 and 2MB L2 cache, 770 graphics, $11 more.

13500 --> 13600, 200mhz increase P-cores and E-cores, $23 more.
That's typical of every intel generation.
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#29
THU31
RMXSo the "P" cores in these are "Alder Lake" generation based? So basically a rebrand from the 12th Gen versions + some E cores added?
Yep. All the locked i3s and i5s are basically Alder Lake.

Quite underwhelming, especially the i3.

I do not see the 13400 ($221) beating the 7600 ($230) in gaming with a 500 MHz lower boost clock. E-cores will not help here. Though the total platform cost will still be lower.
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#30
pressing on
These 13th gen i5s are effectively 12600K derivatives. And the 12600K itself is nip and tuck with the 7600X in most reviews. The 13400 is only 300 MHz slower than the 12600K, same cores, same L3 cache, same L2 cache. So yes, the 13400 will probably give the 7600 more of a run for its money than you might think. But the big seller of the 'Raptor Lake' i5s is likely to be the $210 13400F that will benefit from the huge momentum that has been built up by the 12400F.
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#31
Gica
THU31Yep. All the locked i3s and i5s are basically Alder Lake.

Quite underwhelming, especially the i3.

I do not see the 13400 ($221) beating the 7600 ($230) in gaming with a 500 MHz lower boost clock. E-cores will not help here. Though the total platform cost will still be lower.
It's a hybrid. The cores are Alder, but L3 is identical to 13th (4MB more for i5).
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#32
error1984
250$ in europe for 13400f. i really wanted to buy this but no - i wont be paying to these corp thefts. I'll buy used 12400f and they can suck my xxxx.
Whatever you getting - just buy used and dont let these scammers earn much...
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#33
Why_Me
error1984250$ in europe for 13400f. i really wanted to buy this but no - i wont be paying to these corp thefts. I'll buy used 12400f and they can suck my xxxx.
Whatever you getting - just buy used and dont let these scammers earn much...
Don't blame Intel for your country's VAT.
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#34
Taisho
error1984250$ in europe for 13400f. i really wanted to buy this but no - i wont be paying to these corp thefts. I'll buy used 12400f and they can suck my xxxx.
Whatever you getting - just buy used and dont let these scammers earn much...
In my country, after first 13400 reviews appeared, over 50% used or unpacked (return period exceeded) second-hand 12400F and 12400 offers sold. Within 3 days. Says a lot about how attractive the non-K 13th gen CPUs are. It's 12400F at 775PLN vs 13400F 1100PLN in online stores.
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#35
THU31
TaishoIn my country, after first 13400 reviews appeared, over 50% used or unpacked (return period exceeded) second-hand 12400F and 12400 offers sold. Within 3 days. Says a lot about how attractive the non-K 13th gen CPUs are. It's 12400F at 775PLN vs 13400F 1100PLN in online stores.
The price of the 12400F is surprisingly low in Poland. It comes to about $143 after excluding the VAT. The 13400F comes to about $203.

No sane person will choose this CPU. But stores will probably recommend it to many people not savvy in tech.
That price difference for extra 200 MHz and four useless E-cores is pure madness.
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#36
cin5
Trouble now is except for maybe >$450. ASUS models, so far there's no DDR5 ECC RAM W680 boards. We can probably blame that on Intel for delaying launch of those 65 watt Raptor SKUs to thwart AMD's marketing moves.
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#37
QUANTUMPHYSICS
I'm waiting for tax season (tax returns) to build my next desktop.

I'm going to make the 13900 my CPU and I'm currently trying to plan my case, cooling solution and PSU to accommodate the 13900 and my 4090.

Hopefully in a few months prices will continue to plummet.
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