Saturday, January 28th 2023

NVIDIA RTX 4090 Ti / RTX TITAN (Ada) Pictured, Behold the 4-slot Cinder Block

Here's the very first picture of an alleged upcoming NVIDIA flagship/halo product to be positioned above the GeForce RTX 4090. There are two distinct brand names being rumored for this product—the GeForce RTX 4090 Ti, and the NVIDIA RTX TITAN (Ada). The RTX 4090 only uses 128 out of 144 (88 percent) of the streaming multiprocessors (SM) on the 4 nm "AD102" silicon, leaving NVIDIA with plenty of room to design a halo product that maxes it out. Besides maxing out the silicon, NVIDIA has the opportunity to increase the typical graphics power closer to the 600 W continuous power-delivery limit of the 16-pin ATX 12VHPWR connector; and use faster 24 Gbps-rated GDDR6X memory chips (the RTX 4090 uses 21 Gbps memory).

The card is 4 slots thick, with the rear I/O bracket covering all 4 slots. The card's display outputs are arranged along the thickness of the card, rather than along the base. The cooler is a monstrous scale-up of the Dual-Axial Flow Through cooler of the RTX 4090 Founders Edition. The card is designed such that the PCB doesn't come up perpendicular to the plane of the motherboard like any other add-on card, but rather, the PCB is parallel to the plane of the motherboard. The PCB is arranged along the thickness of the card. This has probably been done to maximize the spatial volume occupied by the cooling solution, and probably even make room for a third fan. We also predict that the PCB is split in such a way that a smaller PCB has the display I/O, and yet another PCB handles the PCI-Express slot interface. Sufficed to say, the RTX 4090 Ti / RTX TITAN will be an engineering masterpiece by NVIDIA.
Sources: MEGAsizeGPU (Twitter), VideoCardz
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193 Comments on NVIDIA RTX 4090 Ti / RTX TITAN (Ada) Pictured, Behold the 4-slot Cinder Block

#126
Bwaze
the54thvoidThere's nothing wrong with criticising the size and cost of a graphics card. If we look at Nvidia's professional line, they're all still dual slot (yes, I know - noise).

The Ferrari analogy is not good at all- it is a luxury performance sports car with performance that does not decrease over time - a car that did 200mph 20 years ago, is still capable of that. A £2000+ graphics card today, will perform worse than a mid range card in two generations. It's also hard to sell a £2000 gfx card at £2000 when the mid range card costs less than half that. Ferrari performance and value does not crash as that does. Bad anaology. A luxury product's value does not noticeably decrease with time. Tech does, that's why there are only a small % of enthusiasts willing to pay for it.
Apparently, this has changed.

“Moore’s Law’s dead,” Huang said, referring to the standard that the number of transistors on a chip doubles every two years. “And the ability for Moore’s Law to deliver twice the performance at the same cost, or at the same performance, half the cost, every year and a half, is over. It’s completely over, and so the idea that a chip is going to go down in cost over time, unfortunately, is a story of the past.”
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#127
medi01
FluffmeisterIf you're patient and happy to wait
The point conveniently ignored by you is that Ti version of 4090 is "leaking" way to early.

Barely 3 month after 4090 that is unchallenged as of now.

It is quite peculiar with that in mind. Makes me wonder if that is caused by NV seeing that 4090 market is somehow... already saturated. :eek:
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#128
Fluffmeister
medi01The point conveniently ignored by you is that Ti version of 4090 is "leaking" way to early.

Barely 3 month after 4090 that is unchallenged as of now.

It is quite peculiar with that in mind. Makes me wonder if that is caused by NV seeing that 4090 market is somehow... already saturated. :eek:
Or maybe they just have a higher tier product to sell.. like every gen. :eek:
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#129
medi01
FluffmeisterOr maybe they just have a higher tier product to sell.. like every gen. :eek:
The last time I've checked, 3090 and 3090Ti were the same die size.

3090 was released in Sept 2020.
3090Ti was released in March 2022.

So, you are saying there is nothing unusual with 4090Ti appearing 3 month after 4090 released?
And there was a die bigger than 3090's that we missed? (or at least there is a die bigger than used by 4090?)
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#130
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
FluffmeisterOh please, the 4090 Ti was always going to be released at some point, acting shocked or heartbroken for RTX 4090 owners is the very definition of trolling.


We aren't talking about luxury Ferrari's after all.
You're assigning emotions on my part where there are none. My post was to suggest there is no need for a 4090ti. It would likely cannibalise 4090 sales. I'm not certain they will release one, though if they did it would seem to be for the sole purpose of having the highest end 'ti' card. AMD fell far short this time (of the 4090), there's no business reason to release a 4090ti. If they do, they do. So be it.
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#131
Easo
We were supposed to have a progress in more areas than just raw power... :(
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#132
Fluffmeister
the54thvoidYou're assigning emotions on my part where there are none. My post was to suggest there is no need for a 4090ti. It would likely cannibalise 4090 sales. I'm not certain they will release one, though if they did it would seem to be for the sole purpose of having the highest end 'ti' card. AMD fell far short this time (of the 4090), there's no business reason to release a 4090ti. If they do, they do. So be it.
medi01The last time I've checked, 3090 and 3090Ti were the same die size.

3090 was released in Sept 2020.
3090Ti was released in March 2022.

So, you are saying there is nothing unusual with 4090Ti appearing 3 month after 4090 released?
And there was a die bigger than 3090's that we missed? (or at least there is a die bigger than used by 4090?)
Okay, you are both right. There is no need for a faster card. Although medi seems to know the release is imminent so maybe there is, and apparently it's because of some mysterious dark force making it hit the market early.

Exciting times!
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#133
TumbleGeorge
wolfdisagree, the same card used for the exact same workload 20 years later
You must be very productive, so today, at this very moment, with your single-core 3.066GHz P4 Northwood PC, the 2002 flagship model with Windows XP. I don't even remember what the flagship video card was from that year. You overtake all business competitors. :)
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#134
Flydommo
Few people would have a case big and strong enough to house such a four-slot giant. Not to mention the strain it would exert on the cooling of said case.
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#135
TumbleGeorge
I couldn't read any information about a release date for the 4090 Ti(or RTX Titan ADA)? Product readiness for production does not mean that it will be on the market tomorrow at 10:00 international time. It may be quiet until the end of the year to rob customers of their holiday savings.
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#136
medi01
FluffmeisterThere is no need for a faster card
Was stated, nor implied, by nobody in this thread.

Oh, wait, it was a strawman? Dude you are so skilled. :D

If a faster than 4090 card releasing 3 month after 4090 was released with no competition in sight is nothing unusual to you... at this point, it is just not arguing in a good faith.
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#137
Fluffmeister
medi01Was stated, nor implied, by nobody in this thread.

Oh, wait, it was a strawman? Dude you are so skilled. :D

If a faster than 4090 card releasing 3 month after 4090 was released with no competition in sight is nothing unusual to you... at this point, it is just not arguing in a good faith.
Yeah NVIDIA are terrible at business, what are they thinking!!?
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#138
Bwaze
medi01If a faster than 4090 card releasing 3 month after 4090 was released with no competition in sight is nothing unusual to you... at this point, it is just not arguing in a good faith.
Nothing is "releasing".

Nothing was even hinted at by Nvidia.

All we see is a leak of a prototype, I'm sure such prototypes are made as soon as first examples of chips are available, even if they aren't suppose to launch for months, or if they even decide not to launch a product at all.

I'm sure RTX 3090 Ti prototypes were made as soon as first examples of GA102 became available, probably full two years before card hit the shelves!
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#139
PerfectWave
till there are pci slot NVIDIA will be fine XD
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#140
mb194dc
It's a ridiculous card, an impressive piece of technology no doubt. You'd think a design with water cooling would be more sensible to make it slightly more compact!

I don't really have a problem with this and sure there will be a market for the small number of cards. I find the 4090 to be more of a problem, the idea top tier cards ex the Titan should cost anywhere near 2k is a ridiculous one to me. My guess is that whilst we'll get Titan's still in future the days of such cards being more mainstream are numbered.
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#141
medi01
BwazeAll we see is a leak of a prototype
Yeah, accidental and uncontrolled, of course.
(but yeah, not release, "leak")

Remind me the first time 3090Ti was "leaked".
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#142
JAB Creations
"the RTX 4090 Ti / RTX TITAN will be an engineering masterpiece by NVIDIA"

That sure is a funny way of saying: "The RTX 4090-whatever will be a massive card that even if it fits in to a case will likely short half the neighborhood before your PC even manages to boot and will likely burn everything down in a five mile radius due to it's insane power draw just to play Doom II." :rolleyes:
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#143
medi01
FluffmeisterNVIDIA are terrible at business
You are so amazing at strawmanning, you you should not be doing it for free, citizen... :D
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#144
Audioave10
TheinsanegamerNIf they did that, they'd either need two SKUs, one for air and one for water, or they'd need to abandon the air market. It's easier for them to leave that to AIBs to offer a model with a waterblock like gigabyte typically does.

A model with no heatsink would be nice for watercooling bros, but it'd be hard to verify warranty needs.


Bruh DVI has been a dead standard for over a decade now, and VGA? really? What high end monitor today is using VGA? If it's not a 4k panel, or even 1440p, why on earth are you buying a 4090ti? (and honestly just use a displayport -> VGA adapter if you really need it.).
I'm sorta kidding...I'm too Retro for a monster like that anyway! :)
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#145
Fluffmeister
medi01You are so amazing at strawmanning, you you should not be doing it for free, citizen... :D
Maybe, I get easily bored. :P Why are you so upset or surprised a 4090 Ti might come to market early anyway? Considering you wouldn't touch a NVIDIA product with a barge pole, why do you care?

Are they living in your head rent free?
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#146
NoneRain
In the future, motherboards will have 1.5² meters. Our cards are already ready for that.
- Jensen Huang
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#147
Operandi
Ok, can we redesign case and motherboard form factors and the graphics slot now? PCI Express slots, motherboards, and cases were never designed to accommodate modern graphics cards.
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#148
Avro Arrow

Do you know what this makes me think of?

This:
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#149
TumbleGeorge
Avro Arrow
Do you know what this makes me think of?

This:
Static fire. Watch Super Heavy full engine stack in work this week.
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#150
ixi
Too overpriced - pass.
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